Ammunition hoist

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Who has pictures or information of ammunition hoist in bunker
for example the ones at M.K.B. Annes ( Channel Islands )
I mean for medium naval batteries , thanks in advance .

Regards Jos

[AvB]

See our website http://bunkersite.eu -> Locations -> Alderney -> Giffoine or Jersey -> Les Landes -> Bt Moltke

Some pics:

[jopaerya]

Hello Arthur

Thanks for the photo's , the purpose of my question is , if this
ammunition hoist is standard model or is in every other bettung
or bunker a different model for example in the M 158 , M 180 or
other bettungen and bunkers .

Regards Jos

[AvB]

I only know of the batteries on Alderney, Jersey and Guernsey (destroyed)
with this type of Bettung.
But in Bt Langerak the same hoists were used in the M.153c Bettungen.

http://www.haagsebunkerploeg.nl/include ... 606/30.JPG

Source: http://www.haagsebunkerploeg.nl

Don't know of any other Bettungen with the same construction.
The M.158 works with another system of hoisting.

Hello Arthur

Thanks for the photo's , the purpose of my question is , if this
ammunition hoist is standard model or is in every other bettung
or bunker a different model for example in the M 158 , M 180 or
other bettungen and bunkers .

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Hi Arthur

There is even the same hole in the concrete on
ground level in the M 153c as in the bettungen
at the C.I. , witch also must be a M ??? .
Maybe someone has information on the hoist in
other bettungen in Norway and other parts of the
Atlantikwall ???

Regards Jos

[AvB]

You're right Jos.
I think they could use that hole for maintenance of the
hoisting chains.

I'm interested in the M 195, the shape of the Bettung shows
similarities with the Mxxx of the Channel Islands.

The typenumber must be in the 0xx or 1xx series I guess.

Hi Arthur

There is even the same hole in the concrete on
ground level in the M 153c as in the bettungen
at the C.I. , witch also must be a M ??? .
Maybe someone has information on the hoist in
other bettungen in Norway and other parts of the
Atlantikwall ???

Regards Jos

[M19 MADMAL]

Hi jos & AvB,
The Emplacements are known as 15cm Sk C/28 Emplacement Type B049.
with 4 at each of the 3 batteries constructed in the C.I.
Malcolm

[jopaerya]

Hello

Here a other type of ammunition hoist in a
bunker , could be German or Norwegian ,
the photo is from C.Hoff found in this Forum .

Regards Jos

[Erik E]

I`ve only seen one hoist in Norway which is for sure of German origin. Looks exactly like the one Arthur posted, but comes from a different bunker. (Not yet able to tell you which type )

This hole you describe is not at groundlevel here, but above the handle.

EE

[jopaerya]

Hello

On this drawing of the M 153a you can see
a sort of pit , mayby for a counterweight like
the 631 ??

Drawing = Marc Machielse

Regards Jos

[Stp Corbiere]

A few more pics of the ammunition hoists @ Batterie Moltke

[jopaerya]

Thanks Erik and Kevin

Just like the planned and equiped batteries in the C.I. , the
batteries Langerak and Lyngen has also 15 cm S.K. C/28 guns .

Regards Jos

[rhandber]

Hello

Here a other type of ammunition hoist in a
bunker , could be German or Norwegian ,
the photo is from C.Hoff found in this Forum .

Regards Jos

Here is a close up of the same hoist, and a addition, a picture into the storage below

[jopaerya]

Thanks Rhandber

Very nice photo's , is there a lower level in
this bunker where the ammunition was stored .
This is a new type of hoist for me .

Regards Jos

[rhandber]

yes, the amminition to all the guns in this fort was stored below ground deep inside the mountain. i dont know if this bunker and the hoist system is from after the war. but as far as i know all the gun inplacements were built by the germans. because all the guns were uncovered when the norwegians built it. Its a shame though that all the tunnels underground are blown up.

here is a picture of the bunker from its front


the part of a bunker you can see to the left is the entrence to the stairs leading to the storage underground