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Re: french railway gun

Post by Sturm78 » 18 May 2011 12:04

Hi all,

I found this interesting image on Ebay. I think a 274mm Mle 1917 barrel but I am not sure

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Manuferey » 18 May 2011 14:24

Sturm78 wrote:[...]I think a 274mm Mle 1917 barrel but I am not sure

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Sturm78,

You are correct. It is one of the eight barrels of 274 mm Mle 1917 placed in reserve in 1921.

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Sturm78 » 20 May 2011 11:41

Hi all,

I have a lot of photos of French railway guns unidentified. I'll start with these two:

Image 1: I think 320mm Mle 1870-93
Image 2: I think 305mm Mle 1893-96 (320mm Mle 1917)

Can somebody confirm this?

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Manuferey » 20 May 2011 14:30

Sturm78,

Image 1: 320 mm à glissement Mle 1870/30 (with a Mle 1870/93 gun barrel indeed)
Image 2: 320 mm à glissement Mle 1917 (one of the "Seven Dwarves"- See on the side of the carriage. There is one of the seven dwarves of Disney's cartoon painted on it: "Joyeux" in French, "Happy" in English) (on a 305 mm Mle 93/96 carriage indeed).

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Re: french railway gun

Post by jopaerya » 20 May 2011 15:07

Disney

1 Atchoum = Sneezy
2 Simplet = Dopey
3 Joyeux = Happy
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Re: french railway gun

Post by jopaerya » 20 May 2011 15:11

Disney

4 Grincheux = Grumpy
5 Timide = Bashful
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Re: french railway gun

Post by jopaerya » 20 May 2011 15:21

Two others

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Manuferey » 20 May 2011 22:58

According to Guy François (the author of the famous book on "Eisenbahnartillerie"), “Atchoum”/”Sneazy” was a 340 mm “sur affût à glissement” Mle 1893 unlike the other “dwarves” that were 320 mm Mle 1917.

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Sturm78 » 22 May 2011 22:59

Thank you for your answers, Emmanuel and Jopaerya.

Any ideas for this one?

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Graham Clayton » 23 May 2011 01:21

According to "Leningrad 1941-44: The Epic Siege" by Robert Forczyk, Osprey Publishing, 2009, Armeeoberkommando 18 received 2 French 52 cm railway guns in early January 1942, but these were replaced by 40cm guns. One of the guns was destroyed by an explosion, as seen in this thread - what happened to the other gun?
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Re: french railway gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 23 May 2011 12:21

According to French records this info is in error. At the end of WW i the French had produced only 2 complete guns and one spare barrel. One gun was desttroyed by a defective projectile during testing at the Graves artillery test area on 17 Jult 1918. The second was retained, captured by the German, and destroyed on the Lenningrad front by a another premature shell exploson. So there was no othe gun to be accounted for.

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Sturm78 » 25 May 2011 09:47

Hi all,

Another image of a the Disney`s french railguns. I think a 320mm Mle 1917 (ex-305mm Mle 1893-96) on Mle 1893-96 carriage.

About the images posted by Jopaerya, I think that the first gun posted on 20 May 2011 at 16:21 is a 340mm Mle 1893 so I guess Atchoum

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Re: french railway gun

Post by jopaerya » 28 May 2011 13:54

Hello All

This photo is taken at the same place as the photo from Sturm78 ( 20 may ) the "320 mm à glissement Mle 1917"

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Re: french railway gun

Post by Manuferey » 28 May 2011 14:21

Stum78's picture of May 20 shows "Grincheux" (also written on the tube) aka "Grumpy". I think that Jos' picture shows "Joyeux" aka "Happy" by comparing the draing with other pictures.

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Re: french railway gun

Post by jopaerya » 28 May 2011 14:46

Hello Emmanuel

Do you think that "Timide" ( Bashful ) was also a "320 mm à glissement Mle 1917" ,
because the barrel looks so different then the other 320 mm guns ??

Regards Jos

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