Unknow gun

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 03 Oct 2008 06:27

Looks like the same gun , but here one of the guns lost the recoil , see the position of the right gun .

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 21 Oct 2008 13:32

Hello , here a new one looks to me Italian naval gun , but I can't find it ??

Photo's = B.P.K. and Ebay.de

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 22 Oct 2008 08:54

Here a other one from the same gun , also Ebay.de

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 25 Oct 2008 14:44

I wll will take a shot at this. Based on photo evidence, more of the ship than the gun, I believe these are Italian 100 mm/47 cal OTO M1937 guns. There is a shot of one (in John Campbell's "Naval Guns of WW II on page 341) mounted on the torpedo boat Ariel of the Spica class which shows a simular shield and barrel arrangement. Due to the mounting of the two guns not on the ship's main deck but on two bandstands and the presence of a german quad 20 mm as well as the mine rails I believe that these photos were taken on the the ex-Italian orpedo boat Arditi which was used by the german navy as the TA 26 untill sunk by british MTBs in 1944. Acording to the limited documation I have on the italian ships the TA 26 was the only one utilized by the Germans to Carry a quad 20 mm.

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 26 Oct 2008 08:44

Thanks Roland

For the information , I think that you are right .I have a other photo this one
is from the TA 37 according to the photocaption it's was a 100 mm gun .

Photo = Ebay.de

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Sturm78 » 30 Oct 2008 18:05

Hi all,

Can someone help me to identify this guns, unknow for me.

Images from BPK.

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Chazette » 30 Oct 2008 19:56

1/ is 9,4 cm M.39 (e) Vickers from le Havre or Boulogne
2/ is 15 cm S.K.C.28 from M.K.B. Coubre West Alte near Royan
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Sturm78 » 30 Oct 2008 20:23

Quick response. Thank you, Chazette. :D

I guess that the photo 1 is 15cm SK C28 and photo 2 is 9.4cm Vickers, no??

I have other two photos for Id.

Photos from ebay and BPK

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Chazette » 30 Oct 2008 20:37

I guess that the photo 1 is 15cm SK C28 and photo 2 is 9.4cm Vickers, no??

yes i make 1 and 2 in order i have to not see the number under the pictures :D

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Chazette » 30 Oct 2008 20:39

photo 3 is M.K.B. Gneisenau in position north of Boulogne in 1940
15 cm S.K.L/45 in M.P.C.C/13 auf Eisenbahnwagen

for the 4 no idée :idea:

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 30 Oct 2008 21:01

Hi

I think photo 4 is a Russian naval 7.65 cm Flak gun

Regards Jos
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 31 Oct 2008 00:35

I would have to disagree the carriage and equibulators do not match. It looks like the phantom russian 105 mm fixed model M 1934 pictured on page 64 of the old "WW II Fact files Anti-aircraft guns" by chamberlin and Gander. This is only the second oicture of this weapon which I have seen. I would personally believe that it more likely to be a 100 mm as I have seen no other reference to a russion weapon of this caliber. It strongly resembles the prewar Bofors designs.

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 31 Oct 2008 09:26

Hello

I could be wrong , but I based this conclusion on a photo from the Russian flakbatterie Lenin at Sewastopol
please look at the equibulators and the tip of the barrel . All seven heavy flakbatterie at Sevastopol were
equipped with 4 x 7.65 cm guns . Maybe the famous Leningrad guns are the same ??

Blurry picture = Denkschift uber fremde Landesbefestigungen

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Nov 2008 16:19

Hi all,

Chazatte, in relation to the photo 3, is this weapon the same that 15cm K (Einsenbahn) railway gun
of which I upload this photo? In photo3 nobody would say it is a railway gun.

image from BPK
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Grzesio » 01 Nov 2008 23:56

jopaerya wrote: I think photo 4 is a Russian naval 7.65 cm Flak gun
Not naval, but a Soviet one indeed. It is a 76.2 mm antiaircraft gun model 1915/28.

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