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- Juha Tompuri
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True...jopaerya wrote: I must say that the gun from Stril looks a lot like my first photo .
Here few more pics from the Putilov mod 1914
Source and high resolution photo here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image ... sula_1.jpg
Regards, Juha
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Guys,
Wow almost missed my own internet depantsing! I actually found all my reference(s) to be wrong and found the 7.62 information on another Russian site but you all have the answer well before me.
What I hate is someone digging in and not accepting other possibilities and I did exactly that. Won’t do it again.
Jon.
Wow almost missed my own internet depantsing! I actually found all my reference(s) to be wrong and found the 7.62 information on another Russian site but you all have the answer well before me.
What I hate is someone digging in and not accepting other possibilities and I did exactly that. Won’t do it again.
Jon.
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Hi - It appears to be a British 8" (20,3cm) Field How Mk VI on Mk VI carriage
1942 copy of Dienstvorchriften D50 Kennblätter Fremden Geräts has it as 523/1
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1_1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1_2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-3.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-4.JPG
Kind regards
Greg[/url]
1942 copy of Dienstvorchriften D50 Kennblätter Fremden Geräts has it as 523/1
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1_1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1_2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-3.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/523_1-4.JPG
Kind regards
Greg[/url]
Thanks Greg
Nice find , I was looking in the wrong direction , more to the East .
http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/ ... itzer.html
There were only 13 guns used by the B.E.F. in 1940 , so most likely a 20.3 cm
s.H. 501 (e) then a 20,3 cm s.H. 523/1 (a)
Regards Jos
Nice find , I was looking in the wrong direction , more to the East .
http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/ ... itzer.html
There were only 13 guns used by the B.E.F. in 1940 , so most likely a 20.3 cm
s.H. 501 (e) then a 20,3 cm s.H. 523/1 (a)
Regards Jos
Hi Jos,
Any other clues on the photos (like date and/or location).
Please see some ref data for 501(e) - very similar but quite different arrangements in my humble opinion.
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/501_1_1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/501_1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/501_2.JPG
Any chance these photos are WWI "left-overs"
Kind Regards
Any other clues on the photos (like date and/or location).
Please see some ref data for 501(e) - very similar but quite different arrangements in my humble opinion.
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/501_1_1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/501_1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/oddessa_ss/501_2.JPG
Any chance these photos are WWI "left-overs"
Kind Regards
Hi Jos,
Yes, I agree with you - certainly speculative - however, the link you kindly provided hi-lites the manufacturing of 8" howitzers of British design by US firms for the WWI conflict. I would also think it totally plausible that some pieces were also left in Europe whether built in the US and used by the British or built by the US and used by the AEF. I will see if I can locate some additional data. Kind regards
Yes, I agree with you - certainly speculative - however, the link you kindly provided hi-lites the manufacturing of 8" howitzers of British design by US firms for the WWI conflict. I would also think it totally plausible that some pieces were also left in Europe whether built in the US and used by the British or built by the US and used by the AEF. I will see if I can locate some additional data. Kind regards
- Juha Tompuri
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Do you know which countries used it?jopaerya wrote:No clues on dates or place , I don't know of all the
guns of the B.E.F. were modernised with pneumatic
tyres , others wise a W.W. I left-over .
We (Finland) did, but I don't think it's from here.
Here (bottom) few photos of a Finnish, US bought howitzer.Jos wrote:I think that the American option is very speculative .
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/ne ... r_info.htm
A little bit different (too)?
Regards, Juha
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Hello
Here a Russian internetsite with the 20,3 cm gun
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=h ... D%26sa%3DG
I don't know if this means that the Russians Army used this gun ,
or are they the Finnish ones .
Regards Jos
Here a Russian internetsite with the 20,3 cm gun
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=h ... D%26sa%3DG
I don't know if this means that the Russians Army used this gun ,
or are they the Finnish ones .
Regards Jos
From my „Encyclopedia of Russian Artillery”:
Russia in WWI purchased 8-inch howitzers both from Britain and USA:
- 32 pcs were ordered from Vickers (29 delivered in 1916, 2 in 1917)
- 100 pcs were ordered from USA (41 of them were delivered in 1917).
British model were known as “Vickers heavy howitzer Mark VI”, and USA model was called the same, except remark “2nd model” was added (“2-го образца”).
At the end of 1921, 59 pcs were recorded as still in Soviet Army inventory. So, they were probably used in WWII also.
Russia in WWI purchased 8-inch howitzers both from Britain and USA:
- 32 pcs were ordered from Vickers (29 delivered in 1916, 2 in 1917)
- 100 pcs were ordered from USA (41 of them were delivered in 1917).
British model were known as “Vickers heavy howitzer Mark VI”, and USA model was called the same, except remark “2nd model” was added (“2-го образца”).
At the end of 1921, 59 pcs were recorded as still in Soviet Army inventory. So, they were probably used in WWII also.