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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Natter » 18 Feb 2016 15:45

Sturm78 wrote:I think the gun in foreground is a 120mm Schneider-Canet gun but...Any idea about the gun turret in the background ??
...and how it looks today (photo borrowed from http://www.forthoytorp.com/#!porteflje/cxu5 ):
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 21 Feb 2016 11:55

According to the Ebay caption at Dunkirk , but could this be Fort de Pelee at Cherbourg with 190 mm Mle 1875/76 ??

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Manuferey » 21 Feb 2016 14:43

Jos,

This is Fort Chavagnac (or Fort de Chavagnac depending on the sources since its name comes from Comte de Chavagnac (count of Chavagnac) who surveyed the area in 1787). The tall building in the middle no longer exists and seems to have been destroyed during the war. But it can be seen on the picture on page 27 of Alain Chazette's book "Les batteries de côte en Normandie - 1939-1944".

Fort de l'Ile Pelée was armed with 4 x 27 cm Mle 1881 while Fort de Chavagnac had indeed 4 x 19 cm Mle 1875-76 guns.

Note in the foreground the remain of a 40 mm Bofors AA gun abandoned by the British in June 1940.

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 21 Feb 2016 16:01

Thanks Emmanuel

I have the information from the book from AC Les Batterie Cotieres du Nord page 137

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by schwarzermai » 22 Feb 2016 11:48

Hello

any idea about gun and truck? and which country??
thanks uwe

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will post it in vehicle-section too....
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Feb 2016 09:30

Uwe wrote
any idea about gun and truck? and which country??
Hi uwe

Ummhhhh.... I am not sure but I would say a Romanian 105mm Schneider Mle 1936 gun and Skoda type 6 ST 6 L truck
Do you have the image in his original size without cuts or the Ebay URL ?? I am very interested...

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by schwarzermai » 23 Feb 2016 11:37

Hi Sturm, thanks for your help.

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here is one more answer from vehicle section:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1999313

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 21 Mar 2016 19:22

Should be a French barrel according to Ebay , Regards Jos
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 01 Apr 2016 19:57

A other Ebay picture with a for me unknown gun, Regards Jos
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 04 Apr 2016 03:32

Base on the breech, mount and particularly the recoil system this appears to be a French 75 MM SM M1928 dual purpose submarine deck gun. I have seen very few pictures of this weapon and this is the first emplaced on land. The drawing below is from: Naval Weapons of WWII, John Campbell, 1985, pg 307.
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by ROLAND1369 » 04 Apr 2016 03:47

Here is a second shot of the piece as normally mounted on a French submarine. I got the pic off the internet and have no idea what site it came from.
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by forttravel » 04 Apr 2016 07:21

jopaerya wrote:A other Ebay picture with a for me unknown gun, Regards Jos
ROLAND1369 wrote:Base on the breech, mount and particularly the recoil system this appears to be a French 75 MM SM M1928 dual purpose submarine deck gun. I have seen very few pictures of this weapon and this is the first emplaced on land.
We spoke about this question here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... n#p1997297
Picture of 75 MM SM M1928 gun could be taken in Poland 1939. Poland bought 4 pcs before war to use it on boards of minelayers. 3 pieces were replaced to auxhillary permanent coast batteries when ships were damaged, one piece sunk with ship.

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by forttravel » 04 Apr 2016 12:36

forttravel wrote:Picture of 75 MM SM M1928 gun could be taken in Poland 1939. Poland bought 4 pcs before war to use it on boards of minelayers.
This is on board picture on Polish ships class "Birds" (species of birds): M = ORP Mewa, J = ORP Jaskółka.
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Re: Unknow gun

Post by jopaerya » 04 Apr 2016 15:52

Thank you very much guys, Regards Jos

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Re: Unknow gun

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Apr 2016 08:45

Hi all,

Any idea about this gun ??

Image from Ebay
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