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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 23 Jan 2011, 16:49

Thanks Ludvig and Kurt

For your reply's , typical gun .

Regards Jos

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 11 Feb 2011, 21:45

Hello

Looks like a 122 mm corps gun M1931/37 but maybe this one has a little battle damaged ,
because I am missing the vertical stabilizers ??? The photo is from Ebay .

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by AVV » 13 Feb 2011, 15:43

Hello!
jopaerya wrote:maybe this one has a little battle damaged, because I am missing the vertical stabilizers
May be, in such a way it was disabled by her crew when abandoned.

Best regards, Aleks

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 13 Feb 2011, 21:53

AVV wrote:Hello!
jopaerya wrote:maybe this one has a little battle damaged, because I am missing the vertical stabilizers
May be, in such a way it was disabled by her crew when abandoned.

Best regards, Aleks
Hi Jos and Aleks

It looks like the cradle and its contents (barrel and recoil system) are not in their correct place, not only the equilibrators (balance springs) missing. The cradle etc. seems to be pushed back. To me as an ex-gun fitter it is a bit more than a crew disabling action. It appears to be damaged, battle of other wise and is/was/should be under repair.

Most armies have a drill for spiking guns to make them unusable by the enemy units immediately capturing them. But all know in reality that the enemy has workshops that can repair and if need be build new parts. The question for artillery commanders is do they spike the gun when retreating or destroy it? Normally time only allows for spiking and if destroyed there is no chance of use if recaptured.
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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Feb 2011, 18:25

Hi all,

I found on Ebay this curious image. The weapon is or an 152mm M1937 howitzer or a 122mm M1931-37 gun, but with a very rare wheels. 8O

Any ideas?? :?

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by AVV » 22 Feb 2011, 21:28

Hello!
Sturm78 wrote:Any ideas??
I think that just rubber tyre was removed, while the wheel itself was left untouched.
Something like this.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Feb 2011, 10:49

Aleks wrote

I think that just rubber tyre was removed, while the wheel itself was left untouched.
Something like this.
Ummhhhh. I don`t think so. The rubber tyre of these small wheels have not been removed.
Now I think that these wheels are, in fact, the limber wheels of the gun!! :idea:

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Manuferey » 24 Feb 2011, 00:55

I agree with Sturm78. But there is a limber visible behind the gun. So the Germans may have used another set of limber wheels to tow the gun to a collection point or just to prop up the gun at this location. The front of the gun is severely damaged so its original wheels had probably been badly damaged as well.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by wolf-hound » 04 Mar 2011, 10:42

Hi! Prompt from a gun that shot ?
It is 7,5 cm Pak 97/38 ? (7,5 см 1897,Canon Scneider de 75 mm de campagne)
Français shell ?
Canon de 75 mle G.P..-I think however, that this is Belgium!
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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Manuferey » 13 Mar 2011, 16:24

Any ID for this gun? AA artillery piece ?
(from ebay.de)

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by ludvig » 13 Mar 2011, 16:36

Hello Manuferey,
Thanks for uploading !
Strangle angle , but it is a :
Canon de 155 mm Mle 1932
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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 13 Mar 2011, 16:38

Hi Manu

Looks to me this one http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 28&start=0

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by jopaerya » 13 Mar 2011, 16:48

I was to late :P

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by Manuferey » 13 Mar 2011, 20:54

Whooaaa, I'm impressed ! Thank you, Ludvig and Jos. :D I'll go post the picture in the thread mentioned by Jos.

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Re: Unknow gun

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Post by peeved » 15 Mar 2011, 23:34

Flak M. 17/34 (f) success story? (Source eBay.de).

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