4 cm Bofors

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4 cm Bofors

Post by jopaerya » 19 Nov 2006 21:16

Hello

According to the text under the picture is this Oostende ,
but I have my doubts about it , specially the houses in front
of the gun ??

Photo = Ullstein Bild

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Post by ducatim901 » 19 Nov 2006 22:52

Nice picture Jos,
Looks more like Hoek van Holland.
Batterie Vineta, its close to the place where later the Fl242 was built.
The picture was taken early in the war, you can see this because the houses in front of the dunes are still present.
After the war the only house still standing is the house on the right.
So Jos, not Belgium or France!!!
Greetings Jack.

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Post by jopaerya » 20 Nov 2006 06:13

Hello Jack

Thanks for the place and your nice words .

Regards Jos

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by jopaerya » 20 Jun 2010 21:12

A nice picture of the 4 cm Flak 28 from Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Clive Mortimore » 21 Jun 2010 09:23

jopaerya wrote:A nice picture of the 4 cm Flak 28 from Ebay.de

Regards Jos
Which service/department do the crew belong to? They are not Luftwaffe flak gunners, no collar badges and tunics have top pockets. Not Heer, again collar badges and they are wearing ties. They do not seem to be RAD, collar is not darker and again RAD did not seem to wear ties often. For the same reasons as Heer they are not Waffen SS divisional Flak. Nor to they seem to be navy coast or flak gunners. The photo seems to date from the second half of the war if the use of gatiers is anything to go by but they are still wearing the earlier style of field cap. Are they SA?

The reason I am asking is I have been doing as many variations of Flak crews for http://www.juniorgeneral.org/ and have not come across this type of uniform in my research.

Having had a second look at the uniforms, is that the German eagle above the right pocket? Are they German?


Edit I have had a look at some other sources and feel that this is a Hungarian crew, possibly Hungarian air force. The sights on the gun are the same type as used on the Hugarian built guns, and the guy sat behind the layer adjusts the sights following information from the predictor/director, which was Hungarian practice. Most of the guns captured by the Germans used direct sighting following the drill of the armies the guns came from.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Manuferey » 26 Jun 2010 02:27

A 4 cm Flak 28 in a concrete emplacement on the island of Heligoland (picture from ebay.de):

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by John Hilly » 26 Jun 2010 08:48

Exellently camouflaged Finnish 40mm Bofors in firing position:
(Hope you find it!) :D

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by jopaerya » 23 Jul 2010 17:01

Hello

From Ebay.de this photo from a 4 cm Flak 28 Bofors .

Regards Jos
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Jul 2010 18:26

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:

Was this gun used by the Kriegsmarine only or by the Luftwaffe/Heer too?

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 31 Jul 2010 18:42

Could they be Hungarians in that last pic ?
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by AVV » 31 Jul 2010 19:11

Hello!
Alanmccoubrey wrote:Could they be Hungarians in that last pic ?
Yes, judging by their caps, you are right.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Aug 2010 14:33

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by stril » 20 Aug 2010 17:29

Hello
Added some phtos. The first taken from the book "Tyske kystfort i Norge" by Jan Egil Fjørtoft.
The last two from a position where Kriegsmarine had 3X4 cm Bofors. One of the position is below the "hut" on the picture.
Thats where i kept my racingpigeons for some years :-D
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by festung st malo » 20 Aug 2010 18:34

Ra 230-Der Zitadelle
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by AVV » 20 Aug 2010 20:48

Hello!
festung st malo wrote:Ra 230-Der Zitadelle
Hm-m... Very little remained of the gun, didn't it? :)

Best regards, Aleks

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