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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Sturm78 » 13 Sep 2017, 21:50

Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by patrick fleuridas » 15 Sep 2017, 12:33

Hi,

Did you this emplacement is for 4 cm Bofors ? On the bunker roof at Nz 435, bur this one is now destroyed. Thank you.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 15 Sep 2017, 16:03

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

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Where was it captured?

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Sturm78 » 15 Sep 2017, 16:47

Hi Alexander,

The Ebay caption only said Japanese gun captured, 1943 .....

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 16 Sep 2017, 11:07

Surely not a JP manufactured one, probably ex-Brit. Several were sent from Malaya/Singapore to the Solomons.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by patrick fleuridas » 18 Sep 2017, 10:25

Hi,
No answer for my emplacement with, or not, 4 cm bofor.
This one on schleuse bunker in Sant-Nazaire harbour.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by glushenko » 18 Sep 2017, 16:28

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

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in 1943, "Type 5" could not be, given the Japanese calendar, in which "type 5" meant 2605 from the founding of the Empire, that is, 1945. Rather, it is a double trophy. But whose? Judging by the semi-closed return spring, this is not the British version (completely closed) and not American (fully open). Perhaps Dutch.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Sep 2017, 16:48

Hello Patrick

Did you made measurement of the emplacement , because it should be 83.6 cm for a 4 cm Flak ??

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 19 Sep 2017, 11:17

glushenko wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

Sturm78
in 1943, "Type 5" could not be, given the Japanese calendar, in which "type 5" meant 2605 from the founding of the Empire, that is, 1945. Rather, it is a double trophy. But whose? Judging by the semi-closed return spring, this is not the British version (completely closed) and not American (fully open). Perhaps Dutch.
I think most likely early UK production, could be this gun or one other of the same unit:
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by John T » 19 Sep 2017, 19:41

glushenko wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

Sturm78
in 1943, "Type 5" could not be, given the Japanese calendar, in which "type 5" meant 2605 from the founding of the Empire, that is, 1945. Rather, it is a double trophy. But whose? Judging by the semi-closed return spring, this is not the British version (completely closed) and not American (fully open). Perhaps Dutch.
I think the spring is released and "at Idle", the fully open recoil springs seems to be on watercooled guns. (often US, but US army guns had the same semi closed spring as most other)
But the number of variants are simply greater than my knowledge.

The last link Nuyt stated 74 British guns where captured in Singapore, and KNIL had some 30-ish guns from Sweden.

I would bet on a British gun, if you look at the right side Fire control "device" it looks British to me.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Sep 2017, 21:46

Thanks to all. I think the gun of my image is not of Dutch KNIL origin definitely so ... Probably a former british gun.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Dec 2017, 22:18

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay:

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Manuferey » 05 Dec 2017, 00:15

Note the two different types of tires mounted on the carriage of the gun on the bottom picture. :o

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Mar 2018, 21:02

Hi all,

I am not sure about this soldiers in this image : Finnish ??

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

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Post by John Hilly » 28 Mar 2018, 14:39

Looks like Finns to me.
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