4 cm Bofors

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 13 Sep 2017 20:50

Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by patrick fleuridas » 15 Sep 2017 11:33

Hi,

Did you this emplacement is for 4 cm Bofors ? On the bunker roof at Nz 435, bur this one is now destroyed. Thank you.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 15 Sep 2017 15:03

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

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Where was it captured?

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 15 Sep 2017 15:47

Hi Alexander,

The Ebay caption only said Japanese gun captured, 1943 .....

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 16 Sep 2017 10:07

Surely not a JP manufactured one, probably ex-Brit. Several were sent from Malaya/Singapore to the Solomons.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by patrick fleuridas » 18 Sep 2017 09:25

Hi,
No answer for my emplacement with, or not, 4 cm bofor.
This one on schleuse bunker in Sant-Nazaire harbour.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by glushenko » 18 Sep 2017 15:28

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

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in 1943, "Type 5" could not be, given the Japanese calendar, in which "type 5" meant 2605 from the founding of the Empire, that is, 1945. Rather, it is a double trophy. But whose? Judging by the semi-closed return spring, this is not the British version (completely closed) and not American (fully open). Perhaps Dutch.
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by jopaerya » 18 Sep 2017 15:48

Hello Patrick

Did you made measurement of the emplacement , because it should be 83.6 cm for a 4 cm Flak ??

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 19 Sep 2017 10:17

glushenko wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

Sturm78
in 1943, "Type 5" could not be, given the Japanese calendar, in which "type 5" meant 2605 from the founding of the Empire, that is, 1945. Rather, it is a double trophy. But whose? Judging by the semi-closed return spring, this is not the British version (completely closed) and not American (fully open). Perhaps Dutch.
I think most likely early UK production, could be this gun or one other of the same unit:
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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by John T » 19 Sep 2017 18:41

glushenko wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

According to Ebay caption, this would be a captured Japanese Bofors gun. I am not sure if an ex-British or ex-KNIL gun or a japanese-made gun (Type 5).
Does somebody know when the japanese began to manufacture the Bofors gun ?

Sturm78
in 1943, "Type 5" could not be, given the Japanese calendar, in which "type 5" meant 2605 from the founding of the Empire, that is, 1945. Rather, it is a double trophy. But whose? Judging by the semi-closed return spring, this is not the British version (completely closed) and not American (fully open). Perhaps Dutch.
I think the spring is released and "at Idle", the fully open recoil springs seems to be on watercooled guns. (often US, but US army guns had the same semi closed spring as most other)
But the number of variants are simply greater than my knowledge.

The last link Nuyt stated 74 British guns where captured in Singapore, and KNIL had some 30-ish guns from Sweden.

I would bet on a British gun, if you look at the right side Fire control "device" it looks British to me.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Sep 2017 20:46

Thanks to all. I think the gun of my image is not of Dutch KNIL origin definitely so ... Probably a former british gun.

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Dec 2017 21:18

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay:

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Manuferey » 04 Dec 2017 23:15

Note the two different types of tires mounted on the carriage of the gun on the bottom picture. :o

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Mar 2018 20:02

Hi all,

I am not sure about this soldiers in this image : Finnish ??

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Re: 4 cm Bofors

Post by John Hilly » 28 Mar 2018 13:39

Looks like Finns to me.
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