5cm Maschinengranatwerfer M19

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 05 Jan 2008 22:10

Hi,

Anybody know where this photo of a M19 mount was taken?

Found it on 'KYSTFORT'' :)
Sorry don't know who owns it :?

Looks like a cool museum 8-) :D

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Post by TH » 05 Jan 2008 22:41

http://www.museumscenterhanstholm.dk

I have two photos from summer 2007.
The M 19 was originally mounted inside a 633 in Agger (DK).

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 05 Jan 2008 23:03

Ahh. Thanks TH,

I thought it might be at Hanstholm in Denmark :)

Looks like its going to be a great display when finished 8-)

Any Chance you post your 2 photos from the summer of 2007 here? :D

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Post by TH » 06 Jan 2008 00:01

Ok the first one looks exactly like yours, so here's only the second...
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Post by M19 MADMAL » 06 Jan 2008 00:09

Thank you TH :D

Malcolm :wink:

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 07 Jan 2008 22:11

This is all I have got left of the M19 at La Corbiere :(

The two doors for the 'box' with the rungs around which can be seen in the 2 photos above which were down the drain outside the bunker entrance and a kind of guard (found in the mortar room) which was in front of the gun layers head so he did not head-butt the elevation gearing 8O and a door for the lower platform which was found in the ammunition room.

Maybe I will have some more bits one day :?

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Post by P. Heijkoop » 10 Jan 2008 11:59

Malcolm,

Well, it's a start... 8-)

P

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 10 Jan 2008 22:32

Hi all,

A photo from the CIOS Guernsey Archives (Cheers Paul :wink: ) which shows Guernsey's 5th M19 which was at Stp. Reichenburg (Fort Richmond) :D

The Early Type 633 was never completed and it looks like the hole was dug and the ground slab poured and the turret installed and that was it 8O

It is unusial in the fact that all standard Regalbau with turrets had them fitted/lowered in after the bunker was constructed (nachträgliche Einbau) in the Channel Islands. The 424P01 turret had arrived on site so a effort was made to mount it as you can see but due to D-Day etc there was not enough supplies or labour to finish the bunker :x

:idea: Is the weapon inside the turret as the norm was to install the mortar then lower the upper part of the 424P01 turret over it :?
It looks like there is a black mass inside which could be the lower mounting so you never know :? Note also the black pipe on the left of the turret which goes from a flap valve in the turret room and should end in a Lüftungspanzer grill next to the entrance defence loophole on the outside of the bunker.

The site is completely buried today :( but it is hoped that permition might be obtained for a 'dig' so watch this space :D

Its 1 of 3 known examples of a bunker only half constructed in the Channel Islands :o For those who are interested the others are a base slab for Type 670 at Stp. Hummerfeste, Alderney and the basement for the observation tower MP9 at Le Hocq, Jersey :)

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Post by AvB » 10 Jan 2008 22:43

Absolutely fabolous photo! I think the gun is there. Mit Sockelring! :)

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Post by ducatim901 » 10 Jan 2008 22:57

It is an amazing picture indeed Arthur.
Thanks for posting it!!
Greetings Jack.

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 10 Jan 2008 23:10

The same turret with scrap men doing well, what scrapmen do. . . :x :(

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Post by P. Heijkoop » 11 Jan 2008 11:31

Malcolm

Great pictures. Thanks !
I would say it was norm to install the M19 after the turret was fixed on it's
position. Interesting picture which indeed seems to show 'something' in the
turretroom. Seeing that they placed the turret the other way around it seems they did everything to create a 'Behelfsmässig' position for the weapon.

Thanks for sharing the picture !

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 12 Jan 2008 14:21

Hi Peter,

I have the following info on the time it took to install a M19 into its bunker which is on a document entitled;

überschläglicher Montageplan
für Inneneinrichtung M19 I

It shows that the mortar was installed before the turret (Panzerturm) was lowered over it :D After the turret was fitted all the electrics etc were then fitted to it before a final inspection by engineers of Reinnmetall-Borsig (who made the M19) 8-)

It took a total of 70 days from the fitting of the mortar to it being opperational and recieving the 'stamp of approval' by its manufacturer 8O

Sorry its sideways :(

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 12 Jan 2008 14:27

Hi all,

Here is a german plan of the racking for the M19 6-bomb clips which was fitted in the ammunition room of a Type 633.

Enjoy :D

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Post by stril » 13 Jan 2008 22:32

Hello
The piece of scrap from a M-19 posted by Peter, and described as a "graduated arch from the elevation mechanism" is now removed.
I was thinking about it after posted the picture that it could be of interest to save it. Up to now i have just checked if it was still there when i visited the place, but havnt looked for it since Peter was there.
Anyway, it was still there, and might be of used in the museum together with other parts if they are interested.
regards
stril

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