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Re: Westwall

Post by AvB » 20 Jun 2008 09:58

It was a popular one indeed! ;)

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Re: Westwall

Post by AvB » 06 Jul 2008 08:12

20P7 wrote:According to a list from Inspektion der Befestigungen from 1944 a total of 16 turrets of the type 40P8 were delivered and build in - 1 x 40P8 Fest.Dienststelle Trier, 7 x 40P8 Fest.Dienststelle Homurg and 8 x 40P8 in the area of the Fest. Dienststelle Pirmasens.
Here another 40P8 I bought on ebay. (Nice co-operation with Erik! :))
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Re: Westwall

Post by 20P7 » 07 Jul 2008 06:23

Congratulations Arthur,

this is really an interesting picture. I have never seen a picture of a 40P8 at the Westwall before.

Any inscription on the backside?

Daniel

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Re: Westwall

Post by AvB » 07 Jul 2008 07:02

20P7 wrote:this is really an interesting picture. I have never seen a picture of a 40P8 at the Westwall before.

Any inscription on the backside?
Unfortunately nothing.
Please see this topic Daniel for another one ;)

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1188955

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Re: Westwall

Post by jopaerya » 15 Feb 2009 21:20

Any idea what the building is on this photo , a old fort ??

Photo = Ebay.de

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Re: Westwall

Post by Saska » 18 Feb 2009 18:32

Hello Jos

Well even if it looks like an old fort, it is really a part of the Westwall.

We see a part of a so called "Panzermauer". Directly (and for sure wrong...) translated it would be "Tank wall".
Anway it is a concret wall, build in front of a up hill position as a part of a anti tank defence system, in a combination with the the typical "Panzerhöcker". Actually nothing really unusual an several times used in the german Westwall.

Interesting are the little wholes in the small ( concret ? ) line in front of the little ditch. Maybe for the use of sticks (wood or metall) and to attach barbed wire there later. Maybe....

Those anti tank walls had been build when it was necessary to protect uphill positions against tanks, but not only in those cases.

I hope I could help a little bit.

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Re: Westwall

Post by 20P7 » 18 Feb 2009 19:15

Hello guys,

this is no picture taken along the Westwall. It looks like a swiss defence system.

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Re: Westwall

Post by jopaerya » 18 Feb 2009 20:08

Thanks Daniel

The "Höckers" made me think it was Westwall , but Swiss is also possible .

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Re: Westwall

Post by jopaerya » 21 Apr 2009 16:43

Hello

Has any one a idea what type of turret was used here ??

Photo = Ebay.de

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Re: Westwall

Post by Erik E » 21 Apr 2009 20:51

21P7 I guess?
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Re: Westwall

Post by jopaerya » 21 Apr 2009 21:02

Thanks Erik

First I was thinking it was a 3-schartenturm because if you look in the back
not a ideal place for 360 observation , the 21P7 should fit very well .

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Re: Westwall

Post by AvB » 22 Apr 2009 09:57

If it's only one way it's better to have such a low profile.
I would go for a 441P01 with three Winkelfernrohre in the front and one in the back.

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Re: Westwall

Post by 20P7 » 22 Apr 2009 10:23

Like Arthur,

I think also that this picture shows a 441P01, because the distance between the two visible holes for the observation oculars seems not to fit with the distance in a 21P7.

This is a quite interesting picture. I have never seen a ruined R 120 / 121 where the turret itself was lowered in a way that the concrete is visible in the back.

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Re: Westwall

Post by jopaerya » 05 Jun 2009 13:14

Hello

A nice 3 schartenturm from Ebay.de in the Westwall .

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Re: Westwall

Post by TH » 06 Jun 2009 18:02

Hello,

did you notice the "Werk 28/24" above the entrance?
Is it possible to identify the bunker by that number?

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