Doppel schartenstand

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 16 Mar 2007 21:06

Hello All

This doppelschartenstand build in the 1 Army area ,
it looks a lot like the ones build in Normandie .

Photo = S.H.M. Vincennes

Regards Jos

erik1939-1945 · Post by **erik1939-1945** » 17 Mar 2007 08:13

hello jos, and all others of course

you will also find such a "Doppelschartenstand" aswell in norway, used for shore defence with a 5 cm KwK.
Build In Vf - with a connection trench and a small shletre in addition.

greetings

erik R

bunker14 · Post by **bunker14** » 17 Mar 2007 12:28

Hi jos

it's a VF model????

wn.82 Maisy

yours

Ben

Bo2 · Post by **Bo2** » 17 Mar 2007 13:19

Bonjour
it's Sa 17 ,and if you look well, just in front the scharten you can see a R600 !
I think it was built first and they make Doppelschartenstand after to protect KwK
I have seen same at Nz 1 and Ar 48
JF

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 17 Mar 2007 17:38

Thank you all for your awnser's , so this model is not a local
design , but build along different part of the Atlantikwall .

Regards Jos

der bunkermann · Post by **der bunkermann** » 17 Mar 2007 19:29

hi jos, even in holland there where 2 doppelschartenstande built in KVA schagen!
for sure one in VB den helder, and i believe one in callantsoog
gr. tim

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 17 Mar 2007 19:56

Hi

Does somebody have a drawing of these bunker ,
with the entrance on the side of the bunker like the
one at Sa 17 and Normandie or other places .

Regards Jos

der bunkermann · Post by **der bunkermann** » 18 Mar 2007 10:54

hi all,
here's the drawing of the one in stp. gr. callantsoog.
it was built in WN 23 and holds baunr. 3332.
it's not quite the same as the one on the picture,
one side has the KWK scharte, (covering the north side) the other side is for an MG.
the entrance is quite the same do.
in my opinion this is the most beautiful bunker built in holland....
it's sad that 99%\ of the flanking bunkers in holland are gone

gr. tim

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 18 Mar 2007 11:32

Hello Tim

This is really a beauty , thanks

Regards Jos

der bunkermann · Post by **der bunkermann** » 18 Mar 2007 15:48

by the way, in the dawa sonderband 5 there's also some nice information and drawings about these bunkers.

is there anyone who knows if there were more of these built in holland?
would be nice to make some sort of database........
gr, tim

i wonder how the drawings of these bunkers where spread along the atlantikwall?
should that been done by the fest. pioniere? or wehrgeologen?
they where the ones who decided what bunker should be built where right?

Bo2 · Post by **Bo2** » 18 Mar 2007 18:20

There is 2 other
Wn 82 at Géfosse in Normandy with a tobrouk add (not include but add)
Av ? plage St Marguerite without tobrouk
Ar 48 and Nz 1 are without tobrouk
I don't remember where but in my archive I have one draw of a doppelschartenstande with a tobrouk for Ft17 on the seaside
I'll look tomorow if nobody put it on topic
JF

Bo2 · Post by **Bo2** » 18 Mar 2007 18:35

I found, hope this can help you

der bunkermann · Post by **der bunkermann** » 18 Mar 2007 19:28

looks very nice!
amazingly small entrance to the tobruk!
gr, tim

jopaerya · Post by **jopaerya** » 18 Mar 2007 21:41

Hi JF

Thanks for the drawings , these are all from the 7Army
area , do you have a drawing of the ones at the 1 Army ?
Thanks you in advance

Regards Jos

Bo2 · Post by **Bo2** » 19 Mar 2007 07:27

Bonjour Jos
No sorry, no draw, perhaps the we I'll go to Ar and I'll look to take draw
JF