38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
And we can see the extra protection on the side of the turret !
For reference:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=187495
Emmanuel
For reference:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=187495
Emmanuel
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Hello
From Soma Brussel a photo from the battery site of M.K.B. Todt with a lot of old buildings .
Regards Jos
From Soma Brussel a photo from the battery site of M.K.B. Todt with a lot of old buildings .
Regards Jos
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Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
One doesn't realize there were also other buildings around the bunkers.. Perhaps some foundations still exist. Thanks for showing!
Maurice
Maurice
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Here a Ebay picture from one the guns of M.K.B. Todt .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Battery Todt was built in Haringzelle, which is a place made of 4 farms, called from the families who lived there. Each gun bunker was made near a farm: Turm I near the Delattre Farm, Turm II und III near Farm Guilbert, and the Turm IV near the Caron and Hamain Farms.Maurice Laarman wrote:One doesn't realize there were also other buildings around the bunkers.. Perhaps some foundations still exist. Thanks for showing!
Maurice
The families were expressively told to leave them houses at the end of july 1940 and the buildings were reused by the german. After the massive bombings of september 1944, none of these buildings were still remaining. Nowadays you can from times to times find again the foundations of theses farms.
RV
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
A photo of the M.K.B. Todt ( Siegfried ) from the early days of the war without het casemate .
Picture = Ebay
Regards Jos
Picture = Ebay
Regards Jos
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Again a other picture of the M.K.B. In buildingproces , photo is from Geheugen van Nederland .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Here a picture with a date of the M.K.B. Todt from Ebay
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Nice picture !
I know all was hugh but when taken in consideration the distance and the size of the crane that hoist block must have been hugh^3 !
I know all was hugh but when taken in consideration the distance and the size of the crane that hoist block must have been hugh^3 !
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Wim
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Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
How much men were assigned to one gun and other functions inside a casemate?
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Let's go back to the original question. If one read the text of Hanomag-museum, it includes building of several 28 cm and three 38 cm guns were manufactured, the last ones delivered 1942/1943.Maurice Laarman wrote: My source regarding the guns is this: http://www.hanomag-museum.de/html/hanom ... chnik.html
I asked them how they found this information.
Krupp,as main contractor, seems logical, but it is however possible that they relied on Hanomag also. Perhaps only parts of it, but nevertheless.The tower for making the barrels, this story was confirmed by a vet who lived nearby.
Maurice
If one goes by the serial numbers of the 38 cm SKC/34 guns, the two first "post Tirpitz" guns went to Siegfried (later Todt), the two next in line went to Hanstholm, the two next to Siegfried, and then two for Hanstholm. The next guns that came out of the production lines went to Kristiansand (later Vara). Then, in the spring of 1942, came the order for new guns with turrets for Gneisenau. Alongside with the Navy orders, the Army had an order for railroad guns. Three guns were completed for the Army, how many guns there were in different stages of production is unknown, but at this time production of these big guns were hampered by airraids, lack of production personnel and ranged after more higly prioritised production.
It is known that the french 38 cm guns placed in BSG C/39 at Le Havre and in Norway were overhauled at Hanomag. If Hanomag produced any 38 cm SKC/34 gun tubes I suspect these to be the guns for railroad (Army) use as the 28 cm guns were, the timeline taken into account.
Anyway, the first six guns SKC/34 (including the four for Siegfried) were taken into delivery by the German navy in mid 1940. They were in fact originally ordered in 1939 for the Schlachschiff "O", the ship beeing canselled by the outbreak of the war, but the order for the guns was not cancelled, probably because the were implemented in the deal with the Russians.
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Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Found this photo on Ebay with a photocaption from 11-11-1940 so it must be M.K.B. Todt ( Sturm78 page 2 )
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
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It's quite interesting to see that this thread is going on since 2007, and has seen nice replies. I received a book about the military activities of Hanomag, written by Friederich Scheiber. It has 189 pages and is very interesting. To confirm what was already mentioned in this thread, here a small translated quote from the book;
'' for three 38 cm gunbarrels Hanomag made the towers and carriage which as C/34 saw operation in the Calais area. Hanomag prepared the barrels,(from WW1) assembled, and delivered them.''
Maurice
'' for three 38 cm gunbarrels Hanomag made the towers and carriage which as C/34 saw operation in the Calais area. Hanomag prepared the barrels,(from WW1) assembled, and delivered them.''
Maurice
Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Here a few of the batterie Todt wit two of the four casemate's , picture is from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
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Re: 38 cm of Batterie Todt - made by Hanomag?
Nice photo, one already with camouflage.