Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby der bunkermann » 22 Mar 2015 09:06

jos,nice discovery about peilstelle ludwig.

I still havent found any info about what it was, except for "heerespeilstelle".
It was located on the cemetery westduin (also ehrenfriedhof and widerstandnest 2H), few years ago during work on the cemetery we found 3 concrete blocks (tuiblokken), there is probably a fourth block hidden, they were in the form of a cross.

Do you have a date for this document?

Gr, Tim

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby der bunkermann » 22 Mar 2015 10:15

Also nice is the name of the scheinflughafen, "maifeld".
In 1944 this location was widerstandsnest 2aH.

The schaltbunker+ mg stand (covering the fake runway) is uncovered by the atlantikwallmuseum Scheveningen, its the common design found on multiple scheinflughafen in holland.

There were lights along the fake runway, and a fake wooden plane on small track that was controlled from the schaltbunker 8-)
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby jopaerya » 14 Mar 2016 15:33

A plan of Ter Linden , Regards Jos

Document = N.A. Kew
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby MPHS Flandern » 14 Mar 2016 19:04

excellent find Jos!!!

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby SES » 14 Mar 2016 20:19

Hi Jos,
Fine find. Could you please send directly in hi-res.
bregds
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby Simon V. » 16 Mar 2016 15:08

Hi Jos,

Great find, I would also like to have a high res version of this map. It's my hometown afterall ;-)
Is it part of the interrogation report(s) made of the captured U-boot men that served in the Peilstelle?

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby jopaerya » 10 May 2016 17:32

There was a "Eisenbetonbunker" in the Bayeux M.P.S. ??

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby jopaerya » 12 Sep 2016 08:24

Found this in a NARA report , is this a typo ? ( MPHS iso MPNS ) Also have a question on the map
from Axis Forum were you can see there were two positions for Saline de Hyeres ??

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby nordfriese » 13 Sep 2016 21:28

Hi Jos!

Must be a typo.

In April 1944 Saline d' Hyères was definitely a MPNS and it was never listed as a MPHS.
Please see attachment.

The part of the map is from Bonatz "Seekrieg im Äther". It is a bit stange to me too.

Bonatz wrote, after the split of Italy from the Axis in Sept. 1943 the German Navy
SIGINT-service took over a post of the italian SIGINT-service at Saline d' Hyères as
MPHS Saline d' Hyères. (On the map "Italienische FA (Funkaufklärung)" = Italian
SIGINT)
On the map MPNS Saline d' Hyères exsisted before Sept. 43, which is right to me.

It seems, the MPNS was a "guest" at the post of the italians or a bit seperated. The
map seems to be "a little bit wrong". (?)

The position of Port Vendres on the map is wrong too.


BTW
der bunkermann wrote:Also nice is the name of the scheinflughafen, "maifeld".

The orginal "Maifeld" is the grass field west of the Berlin Olympic Stadium. :wink:

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby moonraker » 13 Sep 2016 22:54

hi
find today in the chart color. I think this can help ?

source chart belfra-team -bunker Archeo-dieppe

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby jopaerya » 14 Sep 2016 08:53

Hello Etienne

The green dot Luftwaffe = a unit from the Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur E 16/VII ( airfield Le Havre Octeville ) from 10-1940 till 11-1942
The blue dot Kriegsmarine = there was also a Peilstelle Erika at Wn 47 viewtopic.php?f=70&t=191003

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby nordfriese » 14 Sep 2016 11:47

Hi!

"Erika" was (together with "Emil") an abbreviation for the letter "E", used by Heer,
Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine.

On the map of "Moonraker" the colour of "Peilstelle Erika" is blue for navy. As far
as I know, nobody found the position of MPNS Etretat (maybe just an Adcock-D/F).
In this case, the letter "E" fits with Etretat. So this could be MPNS Etretat, but it
could also be luck.


viewtopic.php?f=70&t=191003
jopaerya at 22 Jul 2012, 10:26
On the map of Jos F46 (blue circle (Kriegsmarine)) is the Adcock of MPHS Bayeux.
F 47 "Peilstelle Erika" (black circle) seems to be a Peilstelle of the Heer or Luftwaffe.
(What is a black circle for?) This must be s.th. totally different, because it was rare
that Heer, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine worked together in SIGINT. Everybody did their
own stuff, even in "counting" their Peilstellen by letters.

Thanks for the map, Moonraker! :thumbsup:

Best wishes
Rolf

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby nordfriese » 14 Sep 2016 12:02

Hi again!

BTW
jopaerya wrote:The green dot Luftwaffe = a unit from the Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur E 16/VII ( airfield Le Havre Octeville )
from 10-1940 till 11-1942

A Luftnachrichtenstelle was also responsible for Funkfeuer and Leuchtfeuer.
In SES beacon-bible ( http://www.gyges.dk/Beacon-Bible.pdf ) the roughly
position of Leuchtfeuer or Funkfeuer LENA is just 3 km away from the green
dot.
Just an idea...

Best wishes
Rolf

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby jopaerya » 23 Sep 2016 08:24

I think this is the location of the MPNS Etretat , Regards Jos
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Postby moonraker » 23 Sep 2016 08:37

hello jos,
So the circle bleue I think ?

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