Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by jopaerya » 05 Feb 2019 01:53

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 05 Feb 2019 18:12

very interesting, thx for posting!

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 07 May 2019 17:45

On saterday 25 mai 2019 at 11 AM in Bruges (Belgium): 75 commemoration of the bombing of MPHS Flandern, supported by the city of Bruges, local schools, local autorities and international representatives.

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 27 Jun 2020 05:27

Jos, has the exact location of MPHS Etretat (maybe just an Adcock) in the mean time already been discovered please?

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by jopaerya » 27 Jun 2020 07:52

Goodmorning Jo

No I have not found the exact location of the Peilstelle near Etretat .

Regards Jos

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 16 Nov 2020 05:17

The crest of MPA Marine Peil Abteilung Bretagne based on the same ideas as the one of MPHS Brügge.

[attachment=0]MPA Bretagne kaart.JPG[/attachment]
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 17 Nov 2020 21:26

Found this MPHS in France online: Marine Peil Haupt Stelle Croix d'Hins
https://bordeaux3945.forumactif.com/t16 ... oix-d-hins

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by nordfriese » 20 Nov 2020 00:28

Hi!

Croix d'Hins was no MPHS, but a longwave-transmitting-post of Kriegsmarine.


Several years ago, I found the story of Mr. Schröder, who became a SIGINT-soldier
in Kriegsmarine.
http://schroeder-eversburg.de/memoiren.html (Please see part 4 and 5, written
in German)

In part 5, he was send to MPHS Bordeaux. He wrote, the MPHS was in (/or near?)
Saint André de Cubsac, near Bordeaux. The soldiers were housed in a "chateau
with a park". (Maybe similar to MPHS Bayeux, where the soldiers lived in a chateau,
but the receiving-post was several 100 meters away.)

I searched geoportail.gouv.fr / remonterletemps.ign.fr again and found a DF-post
north of Ambarès-et-Lagrave, near Saint André de Cubsac.

The two DFs I found, seems to be a adapted NVK-LWH IV/38 (also called "Goldfink")
with 8 foundations in a circle with a base of 20 m and a small 8-mast-U-Adcock with
a base of 8 m.
Both antennas were also used at MPHS Hjorring (DK).

Best wishes
Rolf
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 21 Nov 2020 11:22

thx for correction and information Rolf!
Joe

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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by nordfriese » 21 Nov 2020 11:52

HI!

The area today...
Has anybody a information, if there was a Kriegsmarine-post to proof it?
MPHS Bordeaux.jpg
Best wishes and stay healthy
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by hakobordeaux » 09 Feb 2021 11:56

Thank you very much for this topic ! I have never heard about it before
So it is a very interesting finding !

I will make my investigation and tell you more if i find something
Thank you again

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Re: MPHS Bordeaux

Post by nordfriese » 10 Feb 2021 23:34

Hi!

:)
Thank you!

Best wishes and stay healthy
Rolf

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MPHS Den Helder

Post by nordfriese » 08 Apr 2021 17:59

Hi!

At NCAP are some nice air pictures of MPHS Den Helder.

At a picture from 28 May 1944, I notices four sets of star-shaped
earthing ribbons. The eastern "stars" were connected with each
other by a cable-ditch (?) and at the middle of the cable-ditch
another cable-ditch was digged direction MPHS-building.
https://ncap.org.uk/frame/24-1-6-50-78

The book "Die deutschen Funkpeil- und Horch-Verfahren bis 1945"
by Fritz Trenkle says, the Nachrichtenversuchskommando (NVK) of
the Kriesmarine developed (together with Telefunken) the
"Grenzwellen-Langdraht-Sektorpeilanlage 'Guben'" for 1,5 to
3,0 MHz.

The system were two parallel long-wire-antennas, 900 m long, with
a distance of 150 m, which fits with the earthing ribbon stars.

After Trenkle, just two systems exsisted, one with MPA Flandern at
Bruges and on with MPHS Den Helder.

Best wishes and stay healthy
Rolf
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Re: Marine Peilstelle Ter Linden Brugge

Post by MPHS Flandern » 09 Apr 2021 19:52

Great Rolf, well done! I hope you will be able to find one day indications of the Guben on an air picture of MPA Flandern because it is still a mystery: some eyewitnesses confirm a several hundreds of metres long cable on top of wooden poles North West of the Adcock above the ground whilst in a postwar interview a former Kriegsmarine Officer of the MPA Flandern firmly denied the existence of a Guben in Bruges.

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Wullenwever with MPHS Bordeaux

Post by nordfriese » 03 May 2022 17:33

Hi friends,

viewtopic.php?f=70&t=123573&start=135#p2303676

When I finally found the foundations of the DFs of MPHS Bordeaux, Erwan (hakobordeaux)
contacted me and asked a few questions about the MPHS. He searched the area for the
exact post the the unit. We both noticed a "strange" building near Chateau St. Denis,
which looks like a "Z". Erwan found out, that the building is "German made" and still
exists. At pictures at remonterletemps.ign.fr, it seems there were some ground defence
around the chateau. Thanks,Erwan!

Z-buildings were very popular for SIGINT-posts of the Kriegsmarine, you can/could find
them with MPHS Nord (Neumünster), MPHS Mitte (Soest), MPHS Süd (Langenargen),
MPHS Ahlbeck (Swinemünde) and MPHS Neusiedl (A).

He also found another "post" in the area, which I recognized at once as a Wullenwever-
antenna or at least its construction-site. This site was absolutely unknown to me.
Wullenwever - MPHS Bordeaux -.jpg
I knew the first one in Lake Constance area by the firm ENK and the two antennas of
Telefunken/NVK at Bokel (near Rendsburg, NVK-testing-site) and the only one "in use"
with MPHS Hjörring (DK). Mr. Trenkle listed all three antennas in his books, but not
this one.

Long time ago, our friend SES send me a aerial-picture of the Hjörring-antenna
which looks identical to the Bordeaux-"antenna", but the two baracks inside the
circle were mirrored. The antenna or its construction-site was also a 120m-circle.

At the GE-picture of 2006, you can imagine the former circle. Today everything is gone.
MPHS Bordeaux - Wullenwever 2006.jpg
Best wishes
Rolf
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