M.K.B. Vineta in Swinemunde

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M.K.B. Vineta in Swinemunde

#1

Post by jopaerya » 08 Sep 2007, 14:15

Hello All

Thanks to 2 Forummembers from Poland Arek and Akali the old
M.K.B. Vineta was discovered with several bunkers still there an
all were from a early Navaltype bunkers according to the German
manuel "Bauten der Küstenbefestgungen" from June 1940 .
The 4 "Mittel" bettungen were build with rooms for personel and
ammunution as you can see the walls are only 1 meter and have
a few windows with steel shutters .
The Leitstand is a forrunner of the M 120 type and the batterie had
also a Machinebunker and Auffüllraum .
For the guns in the early day were 15 cm S.K.L/45 and after the
occupation of Holland the name was reused in Hoek van Holland
During the war the batterie was a part of the Marine-Artillerie-Schule I
recieved new guns with the caliber 4 x 15 cm S.K.C/28 but also
recieved also a Wurzburg Riese as Fu.M.O. art and a WPG . Now
a days the batterie is blown-up but some part a still there to visit .

Thanks to Arek and Akali

Regards Jos
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#2

Post by jopaerya » 08 Sep 2007, 14:17

bettungen
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#3

Post by 20P7 » 08 Sep 2007, 22:15

Hello Jos,

this are really interesting news!

Do you have any pictures or a drawing available from the M 120 forerunner? I"am very curious to see how this one lokks like. In 1995 I visited a 15cm MKB north of Memel which is also still equipped with a M 120 forerunner (I actually don"t remember the topic name, but it was part of a discussion just a few weeks ago on this forum).

BTW: Very nice threedimensional drawings!

Greetings from Quatar! (I'm just on my way back to good old fortified europe from a business trip and I can"t wait to see "real"concrete again:-)

Daniel

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Post by _Arkady_ » 09 Sep 2007, 02:00

What I can add is that original article was published in polish magazine "Forteca".
Unfortunately the whole battery is still under military administration so it's impossible to visit. Gun shelters are partly demolished by inside explosion of ammunition storages but still most of them are used by Polish Navy. Only ammunition magazine is abandonned.
Some photos and drawings:

PS
We must thanks again to Jos for great help in recognizing and drawing objects of Vineta battery. Thank you for sharing your knowledge :)
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View of one of the gun shelters from behind
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Destroyed ammunition magazine
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One of two entrances to the ammunition magazine
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Post by _Arkady_ » 09 Sep 2007, 02:11

Part two.
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Inside of the gun shelter. Elements of ammunition hoist are visible.
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3d view
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3d view
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Post by AvB » 09 Sep 2007, 02:25

Beautiful. Again an example of the early ammunition hoists for naval Bettungen!

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#7

Post by KaiserChief » 09 Sep 2007, 17:46

Hello Jos.
Could you tell me what´s the source you take plans from? Forteca ?

V.

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#8

Post by jopaerya » 09 Sep 2007, 18:12

Hello V

All plans and 3D drawings are made Arek (Arkady) please see his copyright ,
the hole story with plans is publiced in Polish magazine Forteca.

Regards Jos

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#9

Post by 20P7 » 11 Sep 2007, 10:44

Hello Arkady,

thanks for sharing your pictures!

Do you also have a picture of the fire control post available?

Greetings

Daniel

BTW.: Very nice drawings! Where can I order the magazine Forteca whit the article about MKB Vineta?

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Post by _Arkady_ » 20 Sep 2007, 10:11

The fire control post is now completely covered by ground because it has been rebuilt by Polish Navy. It looks just like regular hill. I also havn't seen its inside.
I guess Forteca magazine can be ordered here: http://www.forteca-online.prv.pl/

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Post by 20P7 » 20 Sep 2007, 13:35

Hello Arkady,

thank you for this answer!

Greetings

Daniel

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#12

Post by jopaerya » 22 Sep 2007, 18:13

Hi

Here the ammo bunker of M.K.B. Vineta .

Regards Jos
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#13

Post by TH » 23 Sep 2007, 16:46

The layout looks similar to a M 145.

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#14

Post by jopaerya » 23 Sep 2007, 18:20

Hello Torsten

You are right , just like the the Leitstand is a forrunner for the M 120 .

Regards Jos

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Re: M.K.B. Vineta in Swinemunde

#15

Post by Valtoro » 24 Oct 2009, 13:53

Jos,

Do you know when this battery recieved the new 15 cm guns?

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