Belgische Rollböcke in Norway?

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Belgische Rollböcke in Norway?

Post by Valtoro » 04 Mar 2006 23:43

In the very large collection of German minefield reports in the Norwegian State Archive, I came across a Sperrenplan that had something that looked like a "Belgische Rollböcke" (Belgian Gate) as a obstacle in a Gulley in Brekke, Vestfold (southern Norway). The Sperrenplan showed a structure very similar to a Belgian Gate in front. Was this kind of obstacle employed in Norway? I don't have a copy of this Sperrenplan.

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Post by ducatim901 » 11 Mar 2006 12:56

The Germans captured a lot Belgischer ture in Belgium and France, so why not transfer them to Norway??
In France and Belgium the Belgischer Rollbocke were widely used, but in Holland, Germany's Northsea (Wadden) coast, Danmark and Norway the use was probably limited, I know of one manufacturer in Paris.
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Post by kstdk » 11 Mar 2006 12:59

Hello

I have never seen any remains, or pictures for that matter, of this type from Denmark.

So I dont think they were ever used in DK ?

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Post by Valtoro » 10 Sep 2007 15:57

The sperrenplan showing something that look very similar to a Belgian Gate :)


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Post by jopaerya » 10 Sep 2007 16:20

Hello Valtoro

It's a Rollböcke , I heard from Peter de Laet a specialist on Sperre's
your one is a original French one , because it is missing the extra
bars in front of the Rollböcke against troops .

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Post by Valtoro » 10 Sep 2007 16:39

Thank you Jos for the identification.

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Sep 2007 16:57

Hi Valtoro

Here a drawing , you can see the hooks for connecting the Rollböcke to the 2 sides .

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Post by Valtoro » 10 Sep 2007 17:09

Thanks again!

This could btw be the location for the Rollböcke (I'm not 100% sure)
http://www.tb.no/article/20010717/NYHETER/107170035
(about the registration of war relics)

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Post by Madboof » 10 Sep 2007 21:10

Hi All
is there any plans of the Rollböcke showing difference of the types. Including size of "L" steel used. I have seen drawings of the overall size but not the size of actual steel used.

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Post by stril » 12 Sep 2007 20:26

Hello
Was this kind of obstacle employed in Norway?
It was also used in Bergen area.I try to find a drawing just to compare those two.
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Post by Bjørn from Norway » 13 Sep 2007 09:54

Hello!
I am quite sure that this model was used at Bremnes ("Brömsneset") too.

B.

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Post by Madboof » 13 Sep 2007 10:07

Can anyone give info on this pic

Pic came from web I can't remember the siteor the location it was taken
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Post by jopaerya » 13 Sep 2007 11:22

Hello All

Here the 2 version

Photo = BaMa
Photo = Denkschift

Regards Jos
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Post by stril » 14 Sep 2007 11:09

Hello
Added two drawings. Also from the archive. Used at a very narrow road with concrete added on each side to make one of these to fit.
Described as fahrbare panzersperre.
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