s. 24 cm K. (t)

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s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Nov 2007, 12:35

Hello All

Here some photo's of the s. 24 cm K. (t) in German service , end 1940
there were at Griz Nez with troops of the II./84 5 guns of this type .

Photo's = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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Post by Manuferey » 18 Nov 2007, 17:37

Hi Jos,

Another picture from ebay labeled "“Staff car next to a rail gun” [sic]. It doesn't mention the location.

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Post by ducatim901 » 19 Nov 2007, 09:08

Looks like Germany or the East.........
Greetings and thanks for posting the nice pictures.
Jack.


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A difficult question about 24cm Skoda M16

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Post by Sturm78 » 12 Oct 2008, 23:37

Hi all,

According to the books "German Heavy 24cm Cannon. Development and Operations 1916-1945" of Wolfgang Fleischer
and "Skoda Heavy guns" of Michal Prasil, the Austro-Hungarian Army ordered 9 pieces of the 24cm Skoda M16 gun
(plus 2 replacement barrels). Up to the end of the World War 1, Skoda was able to manufacture and test-fired only
two pieces(plus one replacement barrel).

According to these two books, Czechs inherited these two es Autro-Hungarian guns and ordered 4 new guns to Skoda factory. These new guns had a new carriage slightly different from the old guns. However, in all the photos that appear in these books and in all photos that I have seen in the net (both in service with the Czech Army and German Army),
only see the new carriage, not the old.

The question is : Did Czechs produce new carriages for the two old cannons ex-Austro-Hungarian or its 6 guns are totally new?

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Re: A difficult question about 24cm Skoda M16

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Post by jopaerya » 13 Oct 2008, 09:31

Hi Sturm 78

The photo's that I have saw of this weapon the carriage is all the same .
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... t=griz+nez

Regards Jos

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Re: s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Jan 2009, 22:09

Please see this realy prefect photo's of the s. 24 cm K (t) of the ./84
http://cgi.ebay.de/Fotoalbum-Artillerie ... 240%3A1318

Regards Jos

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Re: s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Sep 2011, 10:48

Hi all,

I found these two images of this gun on Ebay:

In the second image the base box is already mounted in position and the vehicle is ready to place the carriage on the base box. The inner wheels of the Austro-Daimler generatorwagen fit on the rails mounted on the base

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Re: s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Sep 2011, 10:56

Hi all,

Three small images from Ebay:

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24cm Skoda M16 barrel trailer and Austro-Daimler gneratorwagen in Frankreich3.JPG
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24cm Skoda M16 and Austro-Daimler gneratorwagen in Frankreich1.JPG
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Re: A difficult question about 24cm Skoda M16

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Dec 2011, 11:50

Hi all,

A small image from Ebay:

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24cm Skoda M16 schweres geschütz of II-84 in position in Eastern Front.jpg
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Re: A difficult question about 24cm Skoda M16

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Post by Pavel Novak » 04 Dec 2011, 18:34

Sturm78 wrote:The question is : Did Czechs produce new carriages for the two old cannons ex-Austro-Hungarian or its 6 guns are totally new?
This is really difficult question. I can not find any information about producing new carriages for replacement of older ones. I can only deduce.

But as 38cm howitzer used both these carriages as 24cm gun, it is possible that CS army at the end took new built carriages for 24cm gun and new carriages from incomplete and cancelled 38cm howitzers to replace in battle used older carriages.

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Re: A difficult question about 24cm Skoda M16

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Post by Sturm78 » 19 Dec 2011, 13:32

Pavel Novak wrote
This is really difficult question. I can not find any information about producing new carriages for replacement of older ones. I can only deduce.

But as 38cm howitzer used both these carriages as 24cm gun, it is possible that CS army at the end took new built carriages for 24cm gun and new carriages from incomplete and cancelled 38cm howitzers to replace in battle used older carriages.
Ummmhhh..... It is a possiblity

Here two images from Ebay. (These images are in the book "German heavy 24cm cannon" but much more dark)

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SdKfz 9 halftracks towing a 24cm Skoda M16 carriage trailer. Russia-.JPG
SdKfz 9 halftrack towing a 24cm Skoda M16 carriage trailer. Russia-.JPG

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Re: s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by jopaerya » 13 Mar 2012, 21:37

From Ebay a picture of the 24 cm gun during transport .

Regards Jos
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Re: s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Nov 2012, 22:48

A good view on the loading mechanism of the s.24 cm K.(t) , the picture is from Ebay .

Regards Jos
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Re: s. 24 cm K. (t)

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Feb 2013, 12:41

Hi all,

A 24cm Skoda M16 barrel trailer in tow:

Image from Ebay
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