4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

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4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby jopaerya » 22 Dec 2007 11:13

Hello All

Here some pictures of the Canon de 47 mm antchar SA-FRC
renamed by the German Army as 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b) .

Photo's = Ebay.de

Regards Jos

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Postby Bart » 22 Dec 2007 11:16

Hi,

thanks Jos for shearing the picuteres !!!

Greetz

Bart

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Postby Barovic » 23 Dec 2007 19:46

Nice pictures Jos..... as usual. :)

Any data on this gun? Thx in advance.

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Postby ducatim901 » 23 Dec 2007 22:43

Hi Jos, Barovic and Bart
In Overloon (Netherlands) there is one nice example left, here some pictures of it.
It is part of the collection of mister De Groot, he has the finest private collection of allied vehicles from WO II.
Greetings Jack.
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Postby Barovic » 24 Dec 2007 18:09

Hi,

this is the one in the collection of the Royal Military Museum in Brussels. Pictures were taken from their website (http://www.klm-mra.be).

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Postby jopaerya » 25 Dec 2007 11:49

Hello Barovic

Here some data from the book Small Arms , Artillery and Special Weapons
from T. Gander and P Chamberlain from the 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Caliber = 4.7
Lenght of Piece = ( L/33.6 ) 1579 mm
Lenght of Bore = 1438 cm
Weight in Action = 568 Kg
Traverse = 40
Elevation = -3 to + 20
Muzzle Velocity = 720 m/sec
Max. Range = 1000 m
Shot Weight = 1.5 Kg.
Manufacturer = Fonderie Royale de Canons Liege
Pieces in Action H.Gr. B. 14-03-44 = 59

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Postby Barovic » 25 Dec 2007 19:02

Thanks for the info Jos!

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Belgian 47mm anti-tank gun

Postby Franzl Rider » 29 Dec 2007 15:01

Fron ebay some more pictures of the Belgian 47mm anti-tank gun.
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Belgian 47mm anti-tank gun

Postby Franzl Rider » 29 Dec 2007 15:02

2nd picture. Here examined by German Luftwaffe soldiers.
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby jopaerya » 17 Apr 2008 14:42

Hi , here a other picture of the gun from Ebay.usa

Regards Jos
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby dimi_labada » 11 Jul 2008 21:26

And another on from ebay
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby jopaerya » 18 Aug 2008 19:04

Hello

The same gun in a kind of PaK stellung from Ebay.de

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Re: 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby Barovic » 18 Aug 2008 21:37

Hello,

here are 2 more pictures of this gun, also coming from e-bay.de. According to the caption, the first picture was taken close to the Eben-Emael fort, although this fort had no installations for mobile versions of the Belgian 47 mm AT-gun.

As one can see on the second picture (and even more clearly on the one from Jos), when the gun was put in firing position (uplifted), two metal bars were put forward before the gun. In travelling position, as on the first picture, the bars were attached to the trail legs of the gun, under the seat. I have no idea why, to give the gun a greater stability?

Anyway, for a nice general introduction on Belgian AT-guns (mobile or in fortresses), a small book was published earlier this year by F. Vernier: 'Les Canons Antichars dans la Fortification Belge', 63 p., available at De Krijger (http://www.dekrijger.com).

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Re: 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby Bob_Mackenzie » 22 Aug 2008 16:32

More from the Brussels Museum

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Re: 4.7 cm PaK 185 (b)

Postby Sander D » 26 Dec 2008 01:44

Came across this picture of a 4.7cm pak 185 (B) on Vlieland

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirk_bruin ... 131073437/

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