German Coastal Artillery

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 05 Jan 2003, 02:43

Erik & Mark,

Sure the pics are of L/50.
But NICE.
Suppose have to come and see some day. A mini-bus load of members from SE Finland with me?

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Post by Erik E » 05 Jan 2003, 02:44

Ok. lets assume that it is a L/50.....

Then there is another puzzle:
This battery got operatinal in May 1941.
Where did the Germans get these 2 L/50 guns from?

And if 5 batteries had 3xL/55, one battery had 1xL/55 + 2xL/50
We are missing 2 Nina guns.... or we have 19 instead of 18......

Really a difficult puzzle, but I`m sure we`ll solve it together :wink:

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Post by Mark V » 05 Jan 2003, 02:49

Juha Tompuri wrote:A mini-bus load of members from SE Finland with me?
Regards, Juha
There is appearing so many of use from here that i think mini-bus soon will come cramped.

Anyways - like i have previously stated - Norway is paradise - for a arty nut...
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Post by Mark V » 05 Jan 2003, 02:56

Erik E wrote: Really a difficult puzzle, but I`m sure we`ll solve it together :wink:
EE
OK. Only some speculation.

There were 18 of Nina-guns, and if all were deployed - there were no spare barrels and equipment. Impossible situation in longer run - alltough the need for those would be much less than in field artillery. There were still need to train the gun-crews of those 6 batteries and accidents (barrel explosions) were always a hazard.

Maybe the situation in 1941 was 3 x 13cm L55, but in later years some of the guns were replaced by new L50 war-booty as the barrels of old guns weared...



.... just speculation.
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Post by Erik E » 05 Jan 2003, 02:57

Some more goodies.....
Attachments
varnes.JPG
K332(f)
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Örlandet Drillingsturm.jpg
28cm Gneisenau turret
Örlandet Drillingsturm.jpg (37.15 KiB) Viewed 2466 times
HKB Hausvik 105 mm Schneiderkanone No 2.jpg
K331(f)
HKB Hausvik 105 mm Schneiderkanone No 2.jpg (30.23 KiB) Viewed 2472 times

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Post by Erik E » 05 Jan 2003, 03:03

And more........
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HKB Fjölöy 127mm SKC 34 .jpg
12,7cm SKC34
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MKB Ödderöya 105 mm Sk C 32.jpg
10,5cm SKC 32
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5cm KWK
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Post by Erik E » 05 Jan 2003, 03:08

just speculation
This sounds like a good possobillity!
The documents I am referring from is probably from late 42 or early 43,
I have found changes before so it`s not a shock if you`re right.......

If you guys say this is a L/50, then I just have to believe you, as I have nothing to compare against.....

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Post by Andy H » 05 Jan 2003, 13:48

Hi MarkV

Many thanks for the links, which I'd forgotten about, its just a pity that there is no info on there usage later in the war

:D Andy from the Shire

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Post by Mark V » 05 Jan 2003, 18:54

Excellent pics Erik. Just one addition to our discussion about MKB 9/504 Nordfjord.


from Festung Norwegen:

>>> This unit engaged British warships that attacked Maalöy during Christmas 1941 and one gun got hit and was destroyed by British naval fire. Later the battery got a replacement gun from Germany.


I think this supports my view that the composition of battery changed during war years. That replacement gun was with all propability L50.


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Post by Erik E » 05 Jan 2003, 20:20

Ok Mark....... You win :D

Thanks for a tough, but informative discussion.
This surely shows what teamwork can build!

Now, I`ll sit back and correct my papers :oops:

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 05 Jan 2003, 21:52

Mark V,

Could you post here the pic from "Viisi Sodan Vuotta" (5 years of war) page 433.

Thanks in advance, Juha

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Post by Andy H » 05 Jan 2003, 22:11

Mark V or Eric

Do you know what RN units engaged the shore battery, so I can check sources in England

:D Andy from the Shire

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Post by Erik E » 05 Jan 2003, 22:27

the raid was called "Archery" and happened 27. desember 1941
This is the little info I found on the forces
The attack commenced at 0848, with a hurricane bombardment of the German positions on Malloy from the cruiser HMS Kenya and four destroyers. Twelve Hampden bombers from 50 Squadron RAF bombed coastal defences and dropped smoke bombs to cover the approach of the landing craft launched from the troopships Prince Charles and Prince Leopold. Some 580 Commandos and Royal Norwegian Army troops were landed.
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Post by Mark V » 06 Jan 2003, 00:00

Sorry Juha, i don't have either of them available right now - scanner and that particular book.

What is in that picture ??

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 06 Jan 2003, 00:47

Mark V,

A Nina-gun, text under the pic: "German coastal artillery piece at the coast of the Arctic Ocean". I`ve maybe seen the same winter pic somewhere else too, but can`t remember where...

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