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M 195

Post by jopaerya » 02 Mar 2008 20:20

Hi

Here a drawing of the M 195 with "Haube" the original open bettung was casemated .

Drawing = S.H.M. Cherbourg

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Re: M 195

Post by moonraker » 05 Mar 2008 22:11

hello all and JOS,
in photograh,back of M195
before
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afthers 8O :D
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regards etienne

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Re: M 195

Post by dirk Peeters » 13 Feb 2014 06:07

The M 195 is a very rare bunker but something which has always struck my mind is that on the few plans we have of this type if there is a Tobruk on it , it s the 58a version (for some who don t know this version of our Tobruk is build a fewtimes as a Tobruk (not connected at an St bunker in Danemlark and Norway
but that is not the point here
Jos has given us a drawning of the one in StP 245 Brommy (7 KVA J)
here another SHM drawing
Cherbourg SHM.jpg
our drawning of this one
Cherbourg.jpg
we have measured another one in La Coubre 1 KVA Gi
but it was under the sand so no tobruk (if one was there)
gironde.jpg
one at Dishoek (Holland) BRV drawing
dishoek.jpg
and one in Cadzand (Holland) BRV drawing
cadzand.jpg
we see on al these plans here the Tobruk 58a
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Re: M 195

Post by dirk Peeters » 13 Feb 2014 06:17

for memebers who can t follow what a 58a is
00.jpg
easy to recognise by the niche (in red circle) for posting ammo boxes for instance
00 1.jpg
i ve seen a plan Bernard Paich livre A Chazette Royan
unknown.jpg
On this plan we see a Tobruk (Offener Beobachter)
Can anyone here confirm this ?
are there more plans of other M 195 ? Norway ? Danemark ?
Has anyone in his possession a german plan of this rare Marine Type ?
thanks you all for your contribution
I ll have to go to work now (Yes even belgians must work from time to time)
Dirk
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Re: M 195

Post by dirk Peeters » 13 Feb 2014 06:25

other question
on the plans of Gi and Cherbourg we see a normal entrance, the ones at Cadzand , Dishoek and the unknown plan have all a small niche in the entrance
dishoek.jpg
unknown.jpg
plan B Paich livre A Chazette Royan
see red circle
anyone has an idea for this function ?
Dirk
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Re: M 195

Post by Chazette » 13 Feb 2014 08:44

The last Drawing is make by Bernard Paich (source) for the book heimdal Royan pointe de Grave and more Atlantikwall
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Re: M 195

Post by dirk Peeters » 13 Feb 2014 16:52

Thanks Alain I ve changed in B paich and your book
Are you sure about that Tobruk ? measurements , plans SHM or other archives ?
Dirk

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Re: M 195

Post by jopaerya » 09 Sep 2016 08:12

Here a other example of a M 195 ( B. St.Louis in the Südwall ) with a concrete gun cover just as M.K.B. Brommy .

Document = NARA

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