2 cm Gebirgs-Flak 38 ??

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2 cm Gebirgs-Flak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 05 Mar 2008 11:22

Hello

Is this gun a 2 cm Geb.Flak 38 or a 2 cm Flak 38 Sondergeschütz für die Fallschirmtruppe ??

Photo = Ebay.de

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by Sitzkrieg » 05 Mar 2008 11:24

Doesn't look like a Gebirgsflak mount.
Also an old pictorial about the Hellenic Army, titled "The Hellenic Army of Today 1936-1940" includes a photo of such a gun carried on a Hansa-Lloyd truck:
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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 05 Mar 2008 11:52

Hello Sitzkrieg

So the gun could be captured Greek gun , there were some German 2 cm in
Greek service before the war as we can see on your picture and the list .

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by Sitzkrieg » 05 Mar 2008 12:34

The Greek guns were mostly standard Flak 30. This type of mount was also in service in unknown but most likely smaller numbers.

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by Manuferey » 05 Mar 2008 21:46

This looks like the same gun (photo ebay.de). Is the soldier Italian or Greek or from another southeastern European country ?
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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 06 Mar 2008 15:58

Hello Emannuel

Thanks for the nice picture of this piece of flak , still it looks German made ?

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 09 Mar 2008 08:25

Hello All

The 2 cm Flak on the list from the Greek weapons you can see the name Rheinmetall ,
but also the placename Suhl so this must be the Gustloff-Werke former Simson .

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 03 Apr 2008 16:45

Hello All

Thanks to Idomeneas please see viewtopic.php?f=85&t=82323&start=30 .

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 08 May 2008 20:10

Hello All

Thanks to Francy Ritter here a photo from what looks like the same 2 cm
Flak gun in Chinese service , the Chinese army was equipped with a lot of
German weapons in the years before the W.W.2 .

Photo = Ebay.de

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by AvB » 10 May 2008 13:31

And helmets too!

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 25 Jun 2008 17:45

Hello All

Looks to me the same gun but this time with a gunshield .

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos
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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by SASH155 » 25 Jun 2008 21:21

The weapon is a Rheinmetall/Solothurn ST-5-106 2cm automatic cannon, which was exported to China among other countries (including Greece, I think). This weapon has undoubtedly been regularly confused with the 2cm FlaK-30, which was based on the ST-5 series of cannon.

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by jopaerya » 26 Jun 2008 13:48

Thanks SACH155

Do you know were I can find some information on this gun and the countries with
recieved this gun , are they any books or internetsite's or original information ???

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by SASH155 » 26 Jun 2008 16:25

Get a copy of "German Machineguns", a comprehensive work on all types of German designed automatic weapons of rifle caliber and above, it has a chapter at the end on exports of German machineguns and automatic cannon, and talks about different user countries.

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Re: 2 cm GebirgsFlak 38 ??

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Nov 2008 20:42

Hi all,

Another photo of Solothurn 20mm ST-5 AA gun.
Can anybody identify the country of the soldier who appears in the photo?

According to Filippo Cappellano (Le artiglierie del Regio Esercito nella Seconda Guerra Mondiale), this weapon also was acquired by the Italian army both in AA version as AT version
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