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#61

Post by jopaerya » 11 Mar 2018, 11:52

Could be the same bunker as above , Regards Jos ( Ebay )
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#62

Post by AvB » 12 Mar 2018, 21:52

Yes it is. Very nice!


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#63

Post by b00nfire » 04 Apr 2018, 17:18

Some more pictures of WH 349:
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#64

Post by b00nfire » 04 Apr 2018, 17:20

And more
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Brückensicherung Merzig_BSW_WH 349_PAK-MG-Kasematte_Pferdewagen_Brücke_Frontalansicht.jpg
Brückensicherung Merzig_BSW_WH 349_PAK-MG-Kasematte_Frontalansicht_Schranke_Brücke_Soldat.JPG
Brückensicherung Merzig_BSW_WH 349_PAK-MG-Kasematte_20P7_Tarnung_Widerlager.jpg
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Re: 624

#65

Post by b00nfire » 04 Apr 2018, 17:22

And more!
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Brückensicherung Merzig_BSW_WH 349_Rückseite_Ansicht Süd-Osten.JPG
Brückensicherung Merzig_BSW_WH 349_Rückseite_Ansicht Rieffstraße (Möbelpark).jpg

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Re: 624

#66

Post by Jose85 » 04 Apr 2018, 19:36

Hello,
thanks for the photos! Is there a plan of this beautiful thing somewhere?

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Re: Merzig bunker

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Post by Lars Bertelsen » 05 Apr 2018, 21:31

Hello Jose85
Here is a plan of the Merzig bunker (copy from “Der Westwall” by Bettinger&Büren).
The bunker had two levels, but only the lower level is shown, because the upper level was already demolished, when the bunker was measured. It is not mentioned in the book, that the gun was a Festungspak.
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#68

Post by patrick fleuridas » 06 Apr 2018, 09:20

Hi,

Too bad only one level for bunker build on two...
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Post by wimve » 06 Apr 2018, 09:46

So this level shown is the ground level, then you got the gun level and then the coupola.
But on this layout of the groundlevel I do not see a stair going up.
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Post by patrick fleuridas » 06 Apr 2018, 12:26

Hi,

In room n°4, emplacement in dotted, passage for up level ?
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Merzig Brückensicherungsanlage

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Post by Lars Bertelsen » 07 Apr 2018, 11:43

Hello Patrick
Yes you are right, there was an access from Room#4 to the upper level (please see attached text from the B&B book). Probably there was a metal staircase or ladder.
The position of the access on the drawing is probably not correct, because it must have been gone when the bunker was measured. It seems unlikely that it was situated right in front of the sliding door.
According to the text, there was an entrance door on the back side of the bunker (the entrance is visible on one of the photos in b00nfire’s post from 04 Apr.).
According to B&B, this entrance lead to the upper level, but when you look at the photo, it seems more likely that it lead to the lower level. If this is true, then Room#6 is a gas lock.
Also, if the entrance lead to the upper floor, it would have lead directly into the room under the 20P7 cupola, which seems unlikely.
Greetings Lars
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Re: 624

#72

Post by jopaerya » 07 Apr 2018, 11:50

Please could one of the Moderators split this Topic in two , starting with

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Re: 624

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Post by wimve » 08 Apr 2018, 11:33

I am not convinced.
Room 6 on the plan of Lars, says that above room 6 is the cupola, which would mean that room six is also the gun room. But that is not the case.

I cleaned the ebay picture a little and put "levels" into it. based on the fact that at last the gun opening would lead to one level.
Before the gun opening you get the "nose", which in the picture is seen by the lather that is put against it. That point then would be "room six".
Looking at the contour: the most upper level can not be more the the entrance to the cupola, since the shape is much smaller.
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Wim
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3D : http://www.petromax.nl/Hanstholm.html
http://www.petromax.nl/DeBeer.html

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Re: 624

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Post by Lars Bertelsen » 08 Apr 2018, 22:11

Hello wimve
I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I have made an attempt for a reconstruction (se attachment). Do you agree?
gretings Lars
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Re: 624

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Post by wimve » 09 Apr 2018, 08:13

Lars Bertelsen wrote:Hello wimve
I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I have made an attempt for a reconstruction (se attachment). Do you agree?
greetings Lars
Hello Lars,

This makes more sense indeed.
But the lower entrance level is now 180 degrees turned around, compared with the drawing posted earlier.
Thanks,

Wim
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3D : http://www.petromax.nl/Hanstholm.html
http://www.petromax.nl/DeBeer.html

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