Strange L 401
Strange L 401
Hello All
Who has seen this very strange L 401 , was this typical type ever build ???
the munitionroom has even a sliding door and extra small room .
Regards Jos
Who has seen this very strange L 401 , was this typical type ever build ???
the munitionroom has even a sliding door and extra small room .
Regards Jos
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Re: Strange L 401
Hi Jos,
I have never seen one like that, easy for me to say....havent seen many of them.
Greetings Jack.
I have never seen one like that, easy for me to say....havent seen many of them.
Greetings Jack.
Re: Strange L 401
Hi Jos,
The external wall for entrance's protection is also a very strange feature. It's look like the 8,8 cm Flak bunker build in Le Havre on the Flak batteries on the beach and central mole. The Flak battery Caucriauville is also equiped with Flak bunker with "flanking" wall.
Is there any other strange flak bunker on the German document you put online?
Regards
Sébastien HAULE
The external wall for entrance's protection is also a very strange feature. It's look like the 8,8 cm Flak bunker build in Le Havre on the Flak batteries on the beach and central mole. The Flak battery Caucriauville is also equiped with Flak bunker with "flanking" wall.
Is there any other strange flak bunker on the German document you put online?
Regards
Sébastien HAULE
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Re: Strange L 401
They're all early Luftwaffe designs.
There're more slightly different bunkers in that document.
There're more slightly different bunkers in that document.
Re: Strange L 401
Hi Sébastien
Thanks for your reply that sounds good , at Le Havre we have also the early L 408 .
Do you know there are any drawing of these bunkers , I only have the birdsview
drawing from the outside form of these bunkers are there any drawing from the
rooms of these bunkers ????
Regards Jos
Thanks for your reply that sounds good , at Le Havre we have also the early L 408 .
Do you know there are any drawing of these bunkers , I only have the birdsview
drawing from the outside form of these bunkers are there any drawing from the
rooms of these bunkers ????
Regards Jos
Re: Strange L 401
Hi Jos and others bunker's friends,
I have just documents from SHM Cherbourg and it is situation plans of the bunkers. I think you have these documents Jos. I have somewhere pictures of the bettungs of Flak bunker of Caucriauville battery when they were unearthed before destruction 4 years ago, but unfortunately, the bunker were not opened. Only the bettung were destroyed.
I will post it as soon as possible.
Regards,
Sébastien HAULE
I have just documents from SHM Cherbourg and it is situation plans of the bunkers. I think you have these documents Jos. I have somewhere pictures of the bettungs of Flak bunker of Caucriauville battery when they were unearthed before destruction 4 years ago, but unfortunately, the bunker were not opened. Only the bettung were destroyed.
I will post it as soon as possible.
Regards,
Sébastien HAULE
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Some pictures dated August 2005 of the two L401 of Caucriauville Flak Battery unearthed.
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Others pictures of the same place
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The last pictures.
Jos, I have somewhere an extract of a newspaper with pictures of the battery on the 60's. I will find it and post it here.
Jos, I have somewhere an extract of a newspaper with pictures of the battery on the 60's. I will find it and post it here.
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Re: Strange L 401
Thanks Sébastien
Great pictures never seen them before , it's a pity that the inside was not opened for examination .
but these are not the bettungen as we now from Pas de Calais from the "Waffenkommission Fest".
Regards Jos
Great pictures never seen them before , it's a pity that the inside was not opened for examination .
but these are not the bettungen as we now from Pas de Calais from the "Waffenkommission Fest".
Regards Jos
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Hi Jos and others bunker's friends
Here an extract of a 1957's air photo with the Flak battery build in Le Havre - Caucriauville. Each Flak bunker is equiped with a big concrete wall easily visible on the photo. For me, it should be the same type as the one on Jos document.
Regards,
Sébastien HAULE
Here an extract of a 1957's air photo with the Flak battery build in Le Havre - Caucriauville. Each Flak bunker is equiped with a big concrete wall easily visible on the photo. For me, it should be the same type as the one on Jos document.
Regards,
Sébastien HAULE
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Dear Friends,
Here an other extract from an aerial photography of Le Havre Harbor, dated 1943 : you can see the Flak battery Central Mole under construction (final stage). The 6 Flak bunker are easily visible, with the same external wall. The paricularity is the bettung, not build on the roof but by the bunker. For me, we have also here a "strange" L401.
On the right of the picture, you can also see a nice M 123.
Regards,
Sébastien Haule
Here an other extract from an aerial photography of Le Havre Harbor, dated 1943 : you can see the Flak battery Central Mole under construction (final stage). The 6 Flak bunker are easily visible, with the same external wall. The paricularity is the bettung, not build on the roof but by the bunker. For me, we have also here a "strange" L401.
On the right of the picture, you can also see a nice M 123.
Regards,
Sébastien Haule
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Hello
As you can see on the picture's the flakbettungen from have 2 entrance's HaK 023 so it could
not be the flakbettungen from the "Waffenkommission Fest" they have only one entrance .
Photo's = BaMa Koblenz
Drawing = Hans Sakkers
Regards Jos
P.S. the flakbettungen at Caucriauville must have the bettungen on top of
the bunker and Central Mole and Bd. Albert on the side of the bunkers
As you can see on the picture's the flakbettungen from have 2 entrance's HaK 023 so it could
not be the flakbettungen from the "Waffenkommission Fest" they have only one entrance .
Photo's = BaMa Koblenz
Drawing = Hans Sakkers
Regards Jos
P.S. the flakbettungen at Caucriauville must have the bettungen on top of
the bunker and Central Mole and Bd. Albert on the side of the bunkers
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Re: Strange L 401
Here the concrete emplacements in 3./193 ( Boulevard Albert ) , as you can see on the concrete
emplacements at Caucriauville ( photo's by Sébastien ) they the same, Two side walls are straight
and the back and front with the entrance of the gun are slope .
As I stated earlier the concrete emplacements at Boulevard Albert and Mole Central were not build on
top of the bunker but on the side, to get a lower profile. We can see that see that in many Luftwaffe flak
batteries. The Flak batterie at Caucriauville has the emplacement in the "normal" way on top of the bunker.
Regards Jos ( Ebay )
P.S. under and above the barrel you see the bunker, this photo is made early 1943
emplacements at Caucriauville ( photo's by Sébastien ) they the same, Two side walls are straight
and the back and front with the entrance of the gun are slope .
As I stated earlier the concrete emplacements at Boulevard Albert and Mole Central were not build on
top of the bunker but on the side, to get a lower profile. We can see that see that in many Luftwaffe flak
batteries. The Flak batterie at Caucriauville has the emplacement in the "normal" way on top of the bunker.
Regards Jos ( Ebay )
P.S. under and above the barrel you see the bunker, this photo is made early 1943
Re: Strange L 401
hello,
this is simple to understand,the bettung is placed next to the bunker ok. Look at the photos of the bunkers they are little sinking into the ground, with the bettung on the roof it would have exceeded a lot on the edge of the quay. The reason is certainly to the infiltration of salt water under the quays which should have filled the rooms in high tide.So the betung put next to it so that the bunker is more on the surface and less sinking.
Me belfra-team
this is simple to understand,the bettung is placed next to the bunker ok. Look at the photos of the bunkers they are little sinking into the ground, with the bettung on the roof it would have exceeded a lot on the edge of the quay. The reason is certainly to the infiltration of salt water under the quays which should have filled the rooms in high tide.So the betung put next to it so that the bunker is more on the surface and less sinking.
Me belfra-team