Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

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Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 21 Sep 2008 23:44

..... or "Herring's research in mediterraen countries, vol.1"


Hello,

I wanted to share with you some research, that I did on Crete in 2003. On the slope hill above Kolimvari, there are remains of, what I think, a german battery

(quality of sketches is as it was drawn on my knee during the visit)
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Names of purpose of bunkers are a guess, so let's visit it:

(3) Leitstand location
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In that place there are two bunkers very close to each other, what seems to suggest very close functional cooperation between them. Here's a Leitstand itself:
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tbc.
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 21 Sep 2008 23:49

So, let's see some pictures of the Leitstand.
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 21 Sep 2008 23:53

Please, have a look at dreadfull quality of concrete work - as rebar there were used barbed wire poles.....
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The next bunker is very close to the Leitstand, also having one wide angle observation window in the corner:
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tbc - picture in next post...
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 22 Sep 2008 00:00

picture of the remains - ceiling is destroyed
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The next bunker (2) is - what I think - a "messgerat bunker":
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Outside:
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tbc...
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 22 Sep 2008 00:07

and inside (note the goat....)
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The next object (1) (not a bunker - just eatrh (or rock) - work). Looks like position of scheinwerfer (??) or light flak.
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I have no picture - it was just a group of bushes an rocks - it was better to show in on a sketch.
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 22 Sep 2008 00:13

And the last bunker is a sort of unterstand (4). Resembles a little a KuVer family.
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Pictures - entrance from the trench (like a corridor going from the street)
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and a window:
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Unfortunatelly, no remains of gun emplacements. A local person said, that something like an emplacement with a trench going inside was destroyed when a parking place was made at the road (I'm not sure about the location of that place...) You can see it on a general plan.

That's it. I'm very interested what you think about typology of these bunkers. My associations go to KuVer or some light Behelfsbau structures, eg. from the post http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=118238 . Any ideas, what "bunker family" was used there?

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 22 Sep 2008 13:28

Hello Herring

Thanks for the picture's , realy intresting , the bunkers surely like Behelfsbau .
I have somewere some information on coast batteries at Crete , but were :D

Regards Jos

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 23 Sep 2008 14:00

Hello

Here some information on Crete and especially Stützpunkt Kolimv(w)ari .
For the first list colum one is M.G. Kasemate , Geschutzkasemate ,
Pakunterstand mit Gruppe, Unterstand , Gefechtsstand and total .


Regards Jos
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 23 Sep 2008 14:16

Hello,

Numbers in names of columns in the first list - is it regelbau number? (e.g unterstand matches number 102 )

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 23 Sep 2008 14:25

Also, in the Crete seems to be a huge mess about names of places - up till now I can see Kolimvari, Kolimwari and Kolimbari - all in one place.

Name Platanias - impossible to find - there are dozens of different Platanias-villages.

Maybe it would be a good idea to collect all the data about Crete in one thread? It seems, that only way to get information about it is to collect information from holiday trips of different members of this forum.

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 23 Sep 2008 14:34

The first list a plannung of St. bunkers in Crete and the fourth column are Unterstanden so the
102 would fit . The names are surely a mess , maybe we can use the Greek names :lol: :lol: .
Would be nice if the 4.7 cm Pak K. 36 bunker at Agia Galini and the Tobruks from Crete could
be placed in this Topic .

Regards Jos

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 24 Sep 2008 09:06

Here 2 example's of the so called "Kretabauweise" walls of stones and a top of concrete .

The 4.7 cm Pak K 36 (t) is at Agia Galini = Paul Voskamp
The Tobruk is at Maleme = http://www.curme.co.uk
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by vonkalts » 21 Aug 2009 20:33

jopaerya wrote:Hello

Here some information on Crete and especially Stützpunkt Kolimv(w)ari .
For the first list colum one is M.G. Kasemate , Geschutzkasemate ,
Pakunterstand mit Gruppe, Unterstand , Gefechtsstand and total .


Regards Jos
Hello,
I'm from greece and i search about axis fortifications in my country (http://www.fortifications.gr sorry but only in greek for now). The Documents here is very usefull in my search and i regognise many places .. do you have the full list or part of this?
Thanks
Thanasis

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 29 Aug 2009 15:43

Hello Thanasis

I have some more information about German fortifications in
Greece ,just give me a E-mail then I will try to help you if I can .
Maybe you can place some picture's in this tread from German
bunkers that you have found in Greece ??

Regards Jos bunker@zeelandnet.nl

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