Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 04 Jun 2020 12:17

Hello Philbobutler,

Here is the location of the battery opposite to Souda harbour, in military area. I guess thet for most of the people from here it will be unaccessible, but being a journalist and coworking with with archeologists, you may have a better contact with local authorities, and get a permission to make a measurements. To be honest, it's not clear if it's German battery, or before-the-war but reused by Germans, or a post war. I would vote for first two options, as emplacements seem to be abandoned long time ago. It would be great to know the plan of emplacements, and to know the plan of screws holding the guns - then it would be possible to figure out the type of guns, and also the unit.
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 15 Jun 2020 09:40

herring wrote:
04 Jun 2020 12:17
Here is the location of the battery opposite to Souda harbour
I'm curious: How did you bypass the censored image?

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 15 Jun 2020 11:34

in google earth (installable version) you have old images too

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 15 Jun 2020 11:46

herring wrote:
15 Jun 2020 11:34
in google earth (installable version) you have old images too
Thanks - I wasn't aware they had implemented this feature in GE :-)

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Ondrej Filip » 15 Jun 2020 15:39

Natter wrote:
15 Jun 2020 09:40
herring wrote:
04 Jun 2020 12:17
Here is the location of the battery opposite to Souda harbour
I'm curious: How did you bypass the censored image?
Hi Natter,

there are more sets of satellite maps of the world. Google Maps are the best known, but for many locations there are much better maps and maps without censored parts. I think the best engine to search them are https://en.mapy.cz/, which combines satellite images with very detailed map of the whole world (it is Openstreet Map with many improvements).

You can sea Soudy Bay battery here without censorship.

BTW - try to found Fjell battery at Google Maps nad Mapy.cz for example (and also click to "Outdoor" - there are all the bunkers including the underground).

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by JKernwerk » 15 Jun 2020 21:27

Natter,
If you open GE you can go back in time by clicking on the clock icon with the green arrow.
Mostly the old maps are not very clear and the new ones are censored, bet thin is to seek the middle.
JK

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 15 Jun 2020 23:21

Indeed,
I guess the best effect is when you mix different engines for different areas. For example, for area of Warsaw in Poland you can also find in Google Earth the images from 1939 and 1945.
But going back to Crete - does anyone know if there is any engine with LIDAR scans? (e.g. sth like Geoportal?)

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 15 Jun 2020 23:24

Thanks, I have figured it out - I just wasn't aware that GE had this feature, as I seldom use it.

I mainly use the various norwegian map-services for exploring (the Google Maps / Earth maps is rubbish for Norway). We have good quality historic aerial photos for large parts of the country, and it's especially useful to look at the photos from early 1950's when exploring coastal battery sites (before a lot growth and infrastructure like roads, houses etc took over).

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by dibo » 08 Sep 2020 13:57

I have read the thread so far and explored the maps inside, but I have not seen this one near the Selino fortress in Palaiochora on the South Coast:
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Any idea of type?
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Ondrej Filip » 08 Sep 2020 16:42

dibo wrote:
08 Sep 2020 13:57
I have read the thread so far and explored the maps inside, but I have not seen this one near the Selino fortress in Palaiochora on the South Coast:
Any idea of type?
Nice find Dibo. It is a German sector. When I see the diamater (compared to vehicles at the street it looks about 3 m) and three holes for the legs, i think it could be FLAK 20. Or anything smaller with tripod.
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 13 Sep 2020 11:37

it looks like in Paleohora there should be 9 pcs of 2cm Flak, but on non-fixed emplecements.

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 06 Nov 2020 09:33

Some photo's from Ebay from the H.K.A.A. 3./475 viewtopic.php?t=236322
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 07 Nov 2020 20:04

Matching number to location it's Chersonissos Ost.

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by herring » 26 Nov 2020 15:55

Hello,

In quite an old book (from 1978) I've red, that in Crete before 1941 there were built undergroung hangars (caves?) for airplanes. Can anyone confirm that?

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 05 May 2021 18:38

Work on the emplacements for the 15.5 cm (f) of the Bat 3./475 , see also above .

Regards Jos
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