Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by redgemak » 14 Jul 2013 18:50

Natter

I've been at the Agios Dimitrios church in Platanias, so it's the same, the tunnels are not open for tourist, maybe next year?
Some photo's in my previous upoad.

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 14 Jul 2013 19:11

redgemak wrote:I've been at the Agios Dimitrios church in Platanias, so it's the same, the tunnels are not open for tourist, maybe next year?
Thank you for confirming the location :-)
I will have a look in september anyway - maybe I will get in touch with someone who can let me in...

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 08 Sep 2013 00:39

redgemak wrote:I've been at the Agios Dimitrios church in Platanias, so it's the same, the tunnels are not open for tourist, maybe next year?
They opened this summer according to a fellow forum-member who visited the site a few weeks ago.

My list has been updated with more positions. Here is a link to a zip-file with the list in pdf, as well as a kml-file for Google Earth:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38692668/crete.zip

Comments with adjustments, corrections and especially additions are most welcome!

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Eax-E » 08 Sep 2013 12:16

Hello,

Very good work. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 08 Sep 2013 14:01

It's a start, but I'm sure there are a lot more when you see all the "blank spots" on the map...
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 09 Sep 2013 22:13

Last update before my upcoming trip (previous links are not valid - sorry for the mess, but this forum doesn't allow edits for some obscure reasons).

Map showing all located objects/remains located to this date (german/italian WW2 + memorials and war-museums):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/386 ... OI-MAP.jpg
List with names and coordinates for the objects in the map -170 objects identified (48 missing position so far):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/386 ... TE_MIL.pdf

List of ancient stuff (minoan, byzantine, venetian buildings/castles etc) - 123 objects identified (87 missing position so far):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/386 ... NCIENT.pdf


Zip-file with POI-files for the WW2 and ancient objects in the lists above (for TomTom and Garmin satelitenavigators + Google Earth*):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/386 ... AR-POI.zip

*unzip and install files with the proper software according to your brand and model:
<name>.csv and <name>.bmp are for Garmin
<name>.ov2, <name>.bmp and <name>_X2.bmp are for TomTom
<name>.kml are for Google Earth

Still hoping for inputs on more locations + feedback on errors (I'm particulary keen on getting the names/numbers for the batteries, stützpunkte and widerstandneste correct, if possible...).

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Dili » 18 Sep 2013 19:31

Many thanks Natter.

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by V__ » 18 Jan 2014 15:15

I just discovered this thread but I hope some of you might find this interesting. I believe it is the same Stuetzpunkt mentioned as "Apostoli" in the document uoloaded by jopaerya on page 1. It is located in Agioi Apostoloi (or Agii Apostoli) about 4 km west of Chania, about 400-500 meters (my estimation I could be a bit wrong) from where the allied military was during the Battle of Crete, on the unbluild area you see in this picture: http://www.zarpa.gr/wp-content/uploads/ ... 677920.jpg. Also "crucified" mentioned my Natter on page 2 is probably Stavromenos near Herakleio, "Red Village" is Kokkino Chorio and "mathes" is a Village by that name near Georgioupoli (you can see on the map here: http://buk.gr/el/poli-perioxi/mathes)
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by jopaerya » 18 Jan 2014 16:10

Thanks V___

Is this a tobruk build on the Crete way ??

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 18 Jan 2014 16:20

Thank you!
V__ wrote:It is located in Agioi Apostoloi (or Agii Apostoli) about 4 km west of Chania, about 400-500 meters (my estimation I could be a bit wrong) from where the allied military was during the Battle of Crete, on the unbluild area you see in this picture: http://www.zarpa.gr/wp-content/uploads/ ... 677920.jpg
Are there more remains there? Is the area open for public? Are you able to pinpoint the location ( https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mathes,+ ... e&t=h&z=18 )?

If you download the pdf's I posted earlier on this page of the topic, you will see a list with numrous unknown batteries, as well as unknown locations. Any help in sorting out the names and exact locations for these would be highly appreciated!

I attach two maps I found recently:
Kreta_1.jpg (source: "Wehrwissenschaftliche Berichte Herausgeben vom Arbeitskreis für Wehrforschung Band 7 - Artillerie im Küstenkampf" (Wilhelm Von Harnier, 1965))
Kreta_2.jpg (source: "IBA-Informationen", Heft 21 (H.Lippmann/G.Schalich, 1993 ))
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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by V__ » 18 Jan 2014 17:32

I' not sure if this works (I've never used it before) but I hope it does.
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit? ... 0uvhYl_Fus
On the map you can also see the remains of the old camps that were used as the allied military hospital during the battle of Crete (unfortunately I forgot the word "hospital" on my previous post). Both places are open to the public, although the bunker is not so easy to find. I remember is was in a much better state about 20 years ago, but now its falling apart. Even harder to find are the remains of an unidentified building (its practically a pile of stones among the bushes now) about 300 meters to the east of the bunker which might have been another German fortification. The area was used for training by the Greek military in the 60s so they might have also left some marks there. As for the pdfs that is a long list but unfortunately I don’t know the exact location of most of these buildings/fortifications. I do know most of the villages, towns ect but that does not alwas help...

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 18 Jan 2014 17:37

Thank you again :) (see PM regaring access to the map).

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by V__ » 18 Jan 2014 18:59

As for the old allied hospital today it looks like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fsS-oQgRWY

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Natter » 18 Jan 2014 19:36

V__ wrote:As for the old allied hospital today it looks like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fsS-oQgRWY
Thanks - I will include this on my next visit :)

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Re: Batterie Kolimvari on Crete

Post by Dili » 18 Jan 2014 23:13

This means 4 178mm guns at Hierapetra?

So proabably guns from Limnos/Kilkis battleships. Now the question is if they put there by Greeks or Germans. If by Greeks that excludes Kilkis since that battlehips is said to have them when was sunk in port.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_7-45_mk2.htm

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