Help Id artillery

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by na4222 » 29 Jul 2014 12:41

I think the series is of the Skoda 75 mm Model 15 (7.5 cm Gebirgskanone 15).

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Jul 2014 23:19

[quote]Nezar wrote
[I think the series is of the Skoda 75 mm Model 15 (7.5 cm Gebirgskanone 15).
/quote]

Thanks, Nezar. I think probably you are right. Here another three images of the same Ebay photoserie:

Any idea about the gun of my previous post?

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Bunkerfreak » 31 Jul 2014 14:09

Hello, I bought this picture (with the prev. user stamp on it), Anyone have an idea what type of guns they are?
fort merxem.jpg
The picture's description says "Butin de Guerre 1919" and is taken on Fort de Merxem near Antwerp.

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by na4222 » 31 Jul 2014 14:29

21cm Morser 16 (modernised for used in WW2 by Gemany).

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Bunkerfreak » 31 Jul 2014 14:31

Thank you for the quick answer!

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Jul 2014 23:08

Hi all,

Any idea about this gun ? I can not read well the inscription poster but appears to say " ......? schwerer 15cm Mörser" :?
I think the image is taken after 1940, as in the right side appears an 76mm FRC captured Belgian gun.

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Manuferey » 01 Aug 2014 00:40

It's the carriage of a Belgian 155 mm L Mle 24 from Cockerill - (15,5 cm K432(b) for the Germans).

I think its barrel is the one on the trailer.

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Aug 2014 22:50

Hi Emmanuel,

Are you sure about a Belgian 155 mm L Mle 24 from Cockerill ??
According to my information the 155mm Mle 1924 is a reworked 13cm K09 ex-German gun

The only images that I have seen of this gun are in this link
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... l&start=15 and here these guns have steel wheels with six round holes and solid rubber tyres. However, the gun of my image have a different wheels and the recuperator mechanism appears different from the 13cm K09 gun, the shield is different,...... :? :?

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by nuyt » 02 Aug 2014 07:41

The shield and other parts of the system look more like the Rheinmetall version of the Kanone 16. Not sure about the barrel though.

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Manuferey » 02 Aug 2014 20:13

You're right Sturm 78. :oops: I agree with nuyt, it looks like the 15 cm K16 from Rheinmetall.

I thought that it was a 155 mm Cockerill as I have seen the following gun in the background in the picture below taken at the Cockerill facilities:

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Rui » 02 Aug 2014 20:59

Manuferey wrote:You're right Sturm 78. :oops: I agree with nuyt, it looks like the 15 cm K16 from Rheinmetall.

I thought that it was a 155 mm Cockerill as I have seen the following gun in the background in the picture below taken at the Cockerill facilities:

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Hi Emmanuel, from your picture, what´s the gun and tractor?
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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Manuferey » 03 Aug 2014 02:26

Hi Rui,

The tractor seems to be a version of the Vickers Utility Tractor.

I think that the towed gun is the optional barrel of 47 mm mounted on the carriage (prototype?) of the 76 mm FRC. :idea:

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by nuyt » 03 Aug 2014 10:03

Thanks for sharing that fantastic picture. It's rare that we get insight in a factory yard. A lot of ex German WW1 guns there.
The anti tank gun looks like a shieldless 47mm. Note that behind it is another small infantry or at gun on different wheels.

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by Manuferey » 03 Aug 2014 13:22

Nuyt,

Yes, it looks indeed like the 47 mm FRC Mle 1931 but the barrel looks somewhat different (thinner and with a reinforced muzzle ring). Compare with the 47 mm barrel here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7&t=160460

Could it be a prototype of the 47 mm FRC Mle 1931? :idea:

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Re: Help Id artillery

Post by nuyt » 03 Aug 2014 15:01

No, I am sorry: I think it is the same barrel, better compare here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=132347
The one on your picture just misses the shield and that protective handle around the breech, or whatever it is?
But yeah, it could be a prototype or a early production run.
I have no clue how the realtion between FRC (a state arsenal) and the private Cockerill Works functioned. It could be Cockerill was a subcontractor for the production of these weapons for FRC. This was how it worked in the Netherlands in the same period: AI Hembrug assembled weapons from parts produced by other Dutch companies, like Werkspoor, Wilton-Fijenoord, RDM, etc. No doubt it worked the same in other countries.

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