2.5cm Pak. 113(f)

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Re: 2.5cm Pak. 113(f)

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Post by Sturm78 » 08 May 2018, 22:02

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:;

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2.5cm PaK 113(f) guns and soldiers of Pol.Btl.253 in Norwegen, 1942.jpg

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Re: 2.5cm Pak. 113(f)

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 10 May 2018, 11:03

Hi Sturm

The men in the photo look like German Field Police not army.
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Re: 2.5cm Pak. 113(f)

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Jun 2018, 21:31

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:

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25mm Mle 1934 AT gun in german use as 2.5cm Pak 112(f).jpg

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Oct 2018, 16:14

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay:

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25mm Mle 1937 AT gun in German use as 2.5cm PaK 113(f) ,-,.jpg

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Post by jumpg8 » 28 Nov 2018, 11:04

Here is a fully operational one that you can shoot out in West Texas. Image

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Re: 2.5cm Pak. 113(f)

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 25 Sep 2020, 00:16

Hi,

In the Festung Guernsey volumes there are 3 types of ammunition shown for the 2.5cm Pak (f). Two are standard Pzgr (one with tracer) but the third is a 6.6cm Schießb.Pzgr. Anybody know what this is and what it looks like?

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Post by peeved » 25 Sep 2020, 05:08

Sounds like a 6,6 cm Schießbecher-Panzergranate HL; A HEAT shell to be launched from a cup launcher. A cup launcher was projected for the 2 cm Flak 38; https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/read/ ... cm-hlgr-43 but have never heard of a version for the French 2,5 cm; A Stielgranate was reportedly developed but a Schießb.Pzgr. (let alone in use) is news to me.

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Post by peeved » 25 Sep 2020, 11:09

"6,6 cm Schießbecher Pzgr. 2,5 cm Pak 112 u. 113 (f)" mentioned in "Merkbl. 22/6; Merkblatt über die feldmäßige Lagerung und Unterbringung von Munition in Munitionslagern".

"2,5-cm-Pak (Hotchkiss) und 3,7-cm-Pak" mentioned under "4. Sonstige Waffen zum Verschuß von Gewehrgranaten" in the table of contents of "Deutsche Gewehrgranaten und Gewehrgranatgeräte bis 1945" by Michael Heidler.

"5.1. 6,6 cm Schießbecher für die 2 cm Flak 30 und 2 cm Flak 38, für die 2,5 cm Pak Hotchkiss sowie die 3,7 cm Pak" mentioned under "5. Deutsche Projekte zur Panzer-Nahbekämpfung" in the table of contents of "25 mm Hotchkiss-Waffen und ihre Munition" by Jost-Burkhard Heinrich Anderhub.

The version for 2,5 cm & 3,7 cm Pak reportedly penetrated 110 mm of armour at 60 deg impact angle. Maximum engagement range 300 m.

Pics of a 2 cm Flak 38 version HEAT shell and cup launcher p. 12 [22] at https://www.armeemuseum.ch/wp-content/u ... d-3-16.pdf

Some data from https://www.defensa.gob.es/portaldecult ... _01A04.pdf
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Re: 2.5cm Pak. 113(f)

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Post by M19 MADMAL » 26 Sep 2020, 19:24

Great info. Thank you! :thumbsup:

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Oct 2020, 11:35

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay:

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25mm Mle 1934 AT guns and Laffly trucks in German service as 2.5cm PaK 112(f)-.jpg
25mm Mle 1934 AT guns and Laffly trucks in German service as 2.5cm PaK 112(f).jpg

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