Help Id these heavy coastal guns

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay
Can somebody identify the gun and the batterie ? 28cm SK L50 ??

Sturm78

[ludvig]

Hello
Lookd as MKB 3 513 with 3 x 28 cm SKL 45 notice Flachbettung + side armour + snow

ludvig

[Sturm78]

ludvig wrote
Lookd as MKB 3 513 with 3 x 28 cm SKL 45 notice Flachbettung + side armour + snow

Thank you for your answer, ludvig.
How is it possible to differentiate a 28cm SK L45 gun from a 28cm SK L50 ?

Regards
Sturm78

[na4222]

Hello
Lookd as MKB 3 513 with 3 x 28 cm SKL 45 notice Flachbettung + side armour + snow

ludvig

Thank you Ludvig. Just curious as to how we know this is not MKB Goeben.

Many thanks.

[chris101]

As you know J.L. , I am more from the German bunkers, but it could be Gi 09 ??
This one looks to me B. Requin or Gi 09

Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help me. I've been visiting the Gironde west batterie (Gi 9) for nearly 20 years now. I'm trying to locate the position of the gun in this photo below. When I visited back in 2006 I took this photo of the "pit", now in 2023 (last week) I can no longer locate it, I wonder if its been covered up?

Some photos below, 2 have been borrowed from this forum thread.

Photograph taken in 2006:

June2003-small.jpg

Slightly older (found on this forum, was there a museum here?)

axis forum from user - jopaerya .jpg

1945(ish)

Gi9 138mm.jpg

Approximate location: https://www.google.com/maps/search/la+c ... ?entry=ttu

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the exact model of this Greek coastal gun ?
The only information that I have about these it is that they are 21cm ex-Turkish Krupp guns.... Any information about his history ?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[Ondrej Filip]

Can somebody identify the exact model of this Greek coastal gun ? The only information that I have about these it is that they are 21cm ex-Turkish Krupp guns.... Any information about his history ?

The sources are unclear, but the guns are probably Krupp 210/40, bought by Turks before WWI. Four piece were installed at two batteries at Karabournou fortress near Thessaloniki (now Angelochori, Cape Magelo Emvolo). It is sure they were produced fort Turks, because there are photos of Arabic letters on the gun. The batteries were reused by the Greeks.

You can see one of them here. It lies in a fenced military area. The second battery is in a part of the map that is blurred as if it were a military area, but it is freely accessible there (I was there in October).

[Sturm78]

Thank you, Ondrej.

Do you know where the Turkish installed these guns originally ??.... or perhaps were in the same position ??
I suppose that these guns were captured during the first Balkan War in 1912-13

Regards
Sturm78

[Ondrej Filip]

Do you know where the Turkish installed these guns originally ??.... or perhaps were in the same position ??
I suppose that these guns were captured during the first Balkan War in 1912-13

Hi Sturm. The guns were probably installed right in the Thessaloniki batteries and captured by Greeks during the First Balcan War. Then they remained at Greek service at their original positions. The guns were modern, with hydraulic recoil mechanism. It was next generation of weapons, comparing to most of the Turhish Krupp guns a howitzers, installed around Dardanelles and Bosphorus.

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[Sturm78]

Thanks for your answer, Ondrej

Regards
Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

According to Ebay photo caption this is an 28cm SK L50 gun of Batterie Grosser Kurfürst in Pillau....Is this correct ?

Sturm78