Id. heavy artillery ammunition

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 21 Apr 2016 17:01

Hi all,

An 21cm Mrs 18 shell:

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 23 Apr 2016 13:56

Hi all,

15cm sFH18 ammo:

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 24 Apr 2016 14:39

Hi all,

Can someboby identify these two different types of 21cm Mrs rounds ?? :?

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 26 Apr 2016 08:18

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. I think captured british ammo: 94mm shells for 3.7in AA gun and 83mm field gun rounds ???

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby fert » 26 Apr 2016 10:15

hello,
I think smaller, 40mm bofors round
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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby ROLAND1369 » 28 Apr 2016 20:34

Re: Sturm78 » 24 Apr 2016, 15:39 The shorter 210 mm projectile on the left appears to be a 21 cm Gr 1914 (fig 1) and on the right a 21 cm Gr 1896 (fig 2). Both are high explosive projectiles. Source: "ARTILLERIE ALEMANDE, LES PROJECTILES", Grand Quartier General, Etat Major, 2 Bureau de Artillerie DGIA, paris, 1917.
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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 30 Apr 2016 12:04

ROLAND1369 wrote
The shorter 210 mm projectile on the left appears to be a 21 cm Gr 1914 (fig 1) and on the right a 21 cm Gr 1896 (fig 2). Both are high explosive projectiles. Source: "ARTILLERIE ALEMANDE, LES PROJECTILES", Grand Quartier General, Etat Major, 2 Bureau de Artillerie DGIA, paris, 1917.


Ummhhhh...So the shorter shell is more modern than the other ... :? I always thought that the longer shell would be more modern
If this is true, the 21cm Gr 1896 would a shell developed for an older gun, not specifically for the 21cm Mrs 10 howitzer, much more modern....

On the other hand, the 21cm Mrs 10 entered in service around 1910 so the 21 cm Gr 1914 would be developed more later, according to his designation....
I am a bit confused.... :?

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby ROLAND1369 » 30 Apr 2016 17:17

While I the cannot explain the German nomenclature projectile cutaways show that the 96 model was designed prewar for the traditional role of heavy siege artillery the reduction of permanent fortifications It is heavier with a substantial nose and a base fuze for delay penetration. The 14 projectile has a nose fuze thinner nose and is designed for use against field fortifications and mobile troops a task adopted during the war for trench warfare. the latter not envisioned prior to the war for heavy artillery. The nose fuse giving instantaneous detonation at ground level as opposed to the based fused projectile which was designed to penetrate deeply .

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 03 May 2016 08:15

Thanks for your answer, ROLAND1369

Here, an interesting image (from Ebay) showing various types of artillery ammunition. Can somebody identify the shells?

Red circle: 21cm Gr 1896, according to ROLAND1369

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 05 May 2016 11:16

Nobosy for my last image ??

Well, here another image from Ebay. Can somebody identify these shells? 25cm 97Kg shells for sMW mine-thrower ?? :?

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 31 May 2016 10:55

Nobody for my last questions ??

Well, here another image from Ebay. I think french 155mm artillery shells and containers for 155mm Schneider Mle 1917 guns

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 16 Jun 2016 08:19

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay: 10.5cm leFH18 shells. I am not sure about the exact model...

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 29 Jun 2016 11:43

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay with 10.5cm leFH18 shells :

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 30 Jun 2016 08:47

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this heavy artillery shell ??
I think an 42cm shell for 42cm Skoda M14 or M16 howitzer...

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Re: Id. heavy artillery ammunition

Postby Sturm78 » 02 Jul 2016 11:13

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from Ebay. I am not sure if another 42cm shell or an 38cm shell for Skoda M16 howitzer.... :?

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