Id. heavy artillery ammunition

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

220mm shells for Schneider Mle 1916 howitzer (I think):

Image from Ebay
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[Sturm78]

Hi all,

About my image posted on 08 Dec 2015, I think it is an 42cm Gamma-Mörser shell. Is this correct ??

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[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Here, another image from Ebay. I think shells for 15cm Skoda K1 Romanian howitzer...

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[DoppZ15]

Hi all,

About my image posted on 08 Dec 2015, I think it is an 42cm Gamma-Mörser shell. Is this correct ??

Sturm78

Yes, it's a 42 cm shell
On the shell is written :"Bertas Gruß an Joffre"
Berta was the nickname of the 42 cm gamma Mörser

shell Cart is also the same





Regards
Pascal

[Sturm78]

Thank you, Pascal

The shells does not seem the same model....Did the germans develop new ammunition for this gun during 1930-40s ??

Sturm78

[CNOCK]

Dicke Bertha WWI shell, shell case and cart

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[Grzesio]

The shells does not seem the same model....Did the germans develop new ammunition for this gun during 1930-40s ??

Apparently. The WW2 shell was s Gr Be, a 1020 kg concrete piercing shell with a base fuze, the only shell listed for German 42 cm guns then.

[schwarzermai]

hello Grzesio

or is it an shell for 42 cm H. (t) - think both guns use the same model

Uwe

[Grzesio]

Yes, they did - munition (the sole s Gr Be) for the Gamma-Mrs and 42 cm H. (t) is covered by the same manual.

[Sturm78]

schwarzermai wrote
or is it an shell for 42 cm H. (t) - think both guns use the same model

I don´t think so. The ammunition cart of the 42cm Skoda H (t) was of different design....

Grzesio wrote
Apparently. The WW2 shell was s Gr Be, a 1020 kg concrete piercing shell with a base fuze, the only shell listed for German 42 cm guns then.

So I suppose that the germans developed this s Gr Be 1020kg concrete piercing shell in 1930s, is it not?

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[Grzesio]

I don´t think so. The ammunition cart of the 42cm Skoda H (t) was of different design....

Whatever the construction of the cart was, ammunition used by these both guns during WW2 was the same. The manual on 42 cm munition from May 1940 states clearly:
Der Gamma-Moerser und die 42 cm Haubitze (t) verschiessen die gleichen Geschosse und Kartuschen.
(i.e.: The Gamma-Moerser and the 42 cm Haubitze (t) shoot with the same projectiles and cartridges.)

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

10.5cm SK C33 gun shells

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[Grzesio]

So I suppose that the germans developed this s Gr Be 1020kg concrete piercing shell in 1930s, is it not?

Yes, in the late 1930s probably. Production of the s Gr Be was apparently only beginning in early 1940, with just 15 projectiles delivered until March and 241 in April, while orders were placed for 2000 shells (per gun type?).

[Sturm78]

Grzesio wrote
Yes, in the late 1930s probably. Production of the s Gr Be was apparently only beginning in early 1940, with just 15 projectiles delivered until March and 241 in April, while orders were placed for 2000 shells (per gun type?).

Thanks, Grzesio

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[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Left: 12.8cm Flak 40 shell
Right: ??? Any idea ??

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