Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

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Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby jopaerya » 08 Nov 2008 09:41

Hello All

After a discussion with RuPo about the gunrack that was used in bunkers , I have some questions in my part of the Atlantikwall there are 2 type's of gun racks one for K 98 only and one for M.G. an K 98 with 2 shelves on top , but
on original photo's we also see the gun in a rack mounted at the beds , who has found other models of these
weapon racks ??

Regards Jos

P.S. this one is a Luftwaffe type weapon rack there was one for 7 guns and one for 9 guns
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby Bo2 » 08 Nov 2008 14:38

Bonjour Jos et les autres
Is it this, that you speak about ?
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby jopaerya » 08 Nov 2008 15:36

Merci JF

That are the ones , thanks again

Regards Jos

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby RuPo » 08 Nov 2008 15:38

In racks [EDIT] Oeps ... to quick, this was what Jos means , but there is a other type! [EDIT] Jos mean and who are typical for the Dutch part of the A'wall have place for four or five guns. The guns where standing equal to the wall, so the use minimal bunkerspace. Rack was thick about 0.15 metre. Placed in the entrance or gas shower place. This racks look like a outbreak tool rack. Hard to tell what i mean, sorry have no picture .... ;-(
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby Bo2 » 08 Nov 2008 16:22

Re
the first one was taken in R621 in the corner near stove under sparchrohr, the second in R502 observation room, the third in R502 but I don't know where (it's a fried who take photo)
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby jopaerya » 08 Nov 2008 18:32

Hello JF

Could you place the first photo from the 621 on a higher resolution ?

Regards Jos

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby Bo2 » 08 Nov 2008 19:19

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby Erik E » 08 Nov 2008 19:31

Hard to tell what i mean, sorry have no picture .... ;-(


Smaller version of this? :-)
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby M19 MADMAL » 08 Nov 2008 19:38

Hi Jos,

The standard type found in the C.I. which would hold 4 rifles and there are some examples of a identical rack to hold just 2 rifles :) These photos are of examples at Elizabeth castle, Jersey.

The rack in the last photo is unusial :o I think it is to hold a MG???

Any ideas :?

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby RuPo » 08 Nov 2008 19:48

Its the one of Malcom.
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby M19 MADMAL » 08 Nov 2008 19:48

Another with rifles in.

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby jopaerya » 08 Nov 2008 20:05

Hello Malcolm

Are these original ones or replica's .

Photo = Atlantikwall from A.C.

Regards Jos
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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby M19 MADMAL » 08 Nov 2008 20:20

Hi jos,

The 2 at Elizabeth castle are original, the 1 at Stp. Corbiere is a fake :)

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby AvB » 08 Nov 2008 22:59

Several remaining ones on Alderney.

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Re: Karabinerständer ( gunrack )

Postby RuPo » 09 Nov 2008 09:06

jopaerya wrote:Photo = Atlantikwall from A.C.


I gues the one on Jos last post is also placed in the musea of Bunkerbehoud (Vlissingen). But for sofar i don't see a structure in use of racks for a specific A'wall part.
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