Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Hi Denis thanks a "lot" found also other guns .
http://fortress.wl.dvgu.ru/eng/morgun_en.htm
Regards Jos
http://fortress.wl.dvgu.ru/eng/morgun_en.htm
Regards Jos
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Hello Josjopaerya wrote:found also other guns
Thank you for this link. Of course, Vladivostok fortress is very interesting place
But I think, we could return to Baltic coast and discuss B-13's captured and used by Germans
There were 9 batteries with 34 130 mm guns in the Coast Defence of Baltic District in early September 1941:
Most of these guns were destroyed in battles, or exploded by their crews being encircled. It is not a problem to find photos of the guns from the Baltic islands. Here 2 photos from Ösel (source = e-bay.de) :
And a video from «Die Deutsche Wochenschau» newsreel, Nr. 582, 29.10.1941 — 130-mm B-13 gun, battery No. 43, Ösel, 1941:
[googlevideo]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8298761832[/googlevideo]
In Reval (Tallinn) there were three 130 mm L/55 in improvized railway mountings. They are out of this topic, I think
After capturing Reval, Germans repaired some of old batteries and employed new ones for coast defence. Of course, it was wise enough to use captured guns there. Probably, some of them were taken back by Soviets in 1944
Some months ago there was an excellent photoset at e-bay with many photos taken between Reval and Leningrad. In several photos there was B-13 gun with older edged-style shield:
Regards, Denis
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Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Hello
This is what I found in some information of reused 13 cm by the German troops in Russia .
Crimia = M.A.A. 601
Feodosija - 4 x 13 cm
Sewastopol-Nord 3 x 13 cm
Leningrad = M.A.A. 530
Kokuli 3 x 13 cm
Kurland = M.A.A. 5./534
Libau-Hafen 4 x 13 cm
Source = Artillerie in Kustenkampf
Regards Jos
This is what I found in some information of reused 13 cm by the German troops in Russia .
Crimia = M.A.A. 601
Feodosija - 4 x 13 cm
Sewastopol-Nord 3 x 13 cm
Leningrad = M.A.A. 530
Kokuli 3 x 13 cm
Kurland = M.A.A. 5./534
Libau-Hafen 4 x 13 cm
Source = Artillerie in Kustenkampf
Regards Jos
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Hello Josjopaerya wrote:Leningrad = M.A.A. 530
Kokuli 3 x 13 cm
Thank you very much!!!
It makes clear origin of some photos in the mentioned set, and opens a new field of research for me
May I ask, whether you have more info on M.A.A. 530 ?
Regards, Denis
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Hi Denis
I have only a batterie list from the M.A.A. 530 in 1945 in the Baltic States , in the
same book there is also a plan of the M.A.A. 530 during the Siege of Leningrad .
Nice to see the M.K.B. Prinz Heinrich in the early days at Pas de Calais and M.K.B.
Blucher sisterbatterie of the E-Bahn batterie Gneisenau and the M.Fl.A. 239 .
Do you know if there are any German fortifications left in your "backyard" ?
Regards Jos
I have only a batterie list from the M.A.A. 530 in 1945 in the Baltic States , in the
same book there is also a plan of the M.A.A. 530 during the Siege of Leningrad .
Nice to see the M.K.B. Prinz Heinrich in the early days at Pas de Calais and M.K.B.
Blucher sisterbatterie of the E-Bahn batterie Gneisenau and the M.Fl.A. 239 .
Do you know if there are any German fortifications left in your "backyard" ?
Regards Jos
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Hello Josjopaerya wrote:in the same book there is also a plan of the M.A.A. 530 during the Siege of Leningrad .
Thank you, the plan is of great interest
They are, of course. Some of them are in 20-minutes-walk distance from my home — almost exactly in the «backyard»Do you know if there are any German fortifications left in your "backyard" ?
There are two threads from Russian forums with several photos:
http://www.fortification.ru/oldforum/in ... 201&page=0
http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/arhprint/1164720
I remember also two small concrete pedestals with mounting rings of approx. 60 cm diameter quite close to coastline in Michailowka (Korkuli) and Peterhof. They are likely to be for AA and landing defence purposes there. In Michailowka it was near of an old wooden bunker, trenchlines and old pine with remains of a ladder on it — as it was an observation post on the tree.
Regards, Denis
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Hello Denis
Thanks for the links , you find them every were ringstanden ( tobruks )
Regards Jos
Thanks for the links , you find them every were ringstanden ( tobruks )
Regards Jos
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Hi Jopaerya,
M.K.B. Blucher railway artillery Kriegsmarine battery with 2X15cm guns??
I did not know this railway battery. According with my sources ("Eisenbahnartillerie" book of Guy Francois especially),
there was only one Kriegsmarine railway battery armed with 4X15cm SK L/45 (batterie Gneisenau), that was used in Pas de Calais and the french Mediterranean coast.
According to this book, the german army used also one railway battery with 4X15cm K E (E. batterie 655) though
according to "German artillery of World War Two" book of Ian V. Hog, were produced 18 15cm SK C/30 guns in 1937-38.
I just know 15cm L60 SK C/25, 15cm L55 SK C/28, 15cm L48 SK C/36 of WW2 and 15cm L45 SK L/45, 15 cm L40 SK L/40 and 15 cm L45 Tbts KL/45 of WW1 naval guns. no C/30??
see http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_Main.htm
Someone has more info?
Regards Sturm78.
M.K.B. Blucher railway artillery Kriegsmarine battery with 2X15cm guns??
I did not know this railway battery. According with my sources ("Eisenbahnartillerie" book of Guy Francois especially),
there was only one Kriegsmarine railway battery armed with 4X15cm SK L/45 (batterie Gneisenau), that was used in Pas de Calais and the french Mediterranean coast.
According to this book, the german army used also one railway battery with 4X15cm K E (E. batterie 655) though
according to "German artillery of World War Two" book of Ian V. Hog, were produced 18 15cm SK C/30 guns in 1937-38.
I just know 15cm L60 SK C/25, 15cm L55 SK C/28, 15cm L48 SK C/36 of WW2 and 15cm L45 SK L/45, 15 cm L40 SK L/40 and 15 cm L45 Tbts KL/45 of WW1 naval guns. no C/30??
see http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_Main.htm
Someone has more info?
Regards Sturm78.
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Hi Sturm78
The information on the Eisenbahnbatterie Blucher is from the Book from von Harnier who had many
information from personel from several M.A.A. and other troops , also in the book end 1943 the
batterie was relocated at Kunda (Estonia) . There is no information in the book what type of 15 cm
it was .
Regards Jos
The information on the Eisenbahnbatterie Blucher is from the Book from von Harnier who had many
information from personel from several M.A.A. and other troops , also in the book end 1943 the
batterie was relocated at Kunda (Estonia) . There is no information in the book what type of 15 cm
it was .
Regards Jos
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Hi all,
I found on Ebay this image. I think the weapon is a 130mm B-13 russian coastal gun. (according to photocaption in Sevastopol, Crimea)
Regards Sturm78
I found on Ebay this image. I think the weapon is a 130mm B-13 russian coastal gun. (according to photocaption in Sevastopol, Crimea)
Regards Sturm78
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Hello Sturm78
I think the gun is a Russian 10 cm B-24 , please see the first page I made the same mistake .
Regards Jos
I think the gun is a Russian 10 cm B-24 , please see the first page I made the same mistake .
Regards Jos
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Hello Jos,
Regards, Denis
Agree with you, it is definitely B-24.jopaerya wrote:I think the gun is a Russian 10 cm B-24.
Regards, Denis
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
Thank you very much for your information, Jopaerya and Dennis.
Regards Sturm78
Regards Sturm78
Re: Russian gun 13 cm C 1940 (r)
A bit late, but found this note about 463The serial number of the remaining gun is "463" if anyone can pull something from that?
regards
stril
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Thanks Stril
First class information , so two guns were replaced at the M.K.B. Nordfjord after the raid .
Funny to read that even the Germans were a bit suprised about the difference's of the L/50 and L/55
Regards Jos
First class information , so two guns were replaced at the M.K.B. Nordfjord after the raid .
Funny to read that even the Germans were a bit suprised about the difference's of the L/50 and L/55
Regards Jos