M.K.B. Tirpitz

[vladalex]

VladAlex

I do not know if you have this plan but it might help you in your explorations.

Thank you ROLAND1369,

I don't have the technical draw for construction of a cannon location of such importance,
and from this point of view, thank you for posting it.
I'll make an explanatory remark, I don't do research work only in accessible
archives and on the net, for the clarifications of such kinds of subjects.
Our museums are relatively low in vestiges of war and reticent of collaborations
with individuals.
So your drawing will be another brick laid in a building, that will be build by some
passionate people, about the lands history in which they live.
What I'm wondering is that those enthusiast people, that are effective in the
field studies on this subject, have not contacted this forum, and the fact
that, prefer to publish their results on a little-known site.
Many thanks, and have a wonderful day !

VladAlex.

[ROLAND1369]

iIf I can help in anyway I will. All of us started with very little knowledge. Dont be discouraged. When looking for buried emplacements a 4 foot pointed metal rod probe with a T handle is simler and more usefull than all the electronics with the exception of a GPS.

[Manuferey]

Interestingly, there was a German coastal battery named "Tirpitz" and armed with 4 x 28 cm guns (I am not sure which exact type but a Model 1911 according to a post-WW1 American report) near Ostend, Flanders (Belgium) in WW1.

I have noticed several names of coastal batteries in WW1 that the Germans reused in WW2 but "Tirpitz" is the only battery name I have found so far that had the same caliber of guns in both world wars.



http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205217896

Emmanuel

[reverse]

Unfortunatelly, Constanta based Tirpitz gun battery (located: 44.119849,28.630594) is probably gonna be put down by some kind of a industrial project:
http://www.zam-architekten.de/projekte_constanta.html

[der bunkermann]

Hi, it's dated 2007?

So no recent devlopments :roll:

[reverse]

Yes, but it halted for 6 years and now is ressurected and the work will start this summer.

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Please note the ship painted on the barrel , I think this is the Russian destroyer Moskva that was sunk on
26 june 1941 by this batterie . Information from the book "Artillerie im Küstenkampf" from von Harnier .
On internet there are other story"s how this ships came thought her end .

Picture = Ebay

Regards Jos

[vladalex]

Hello Jos,
This is only a supossition. Military documents not sustain this "tale",
till now, not romanian military or russian military documents.
I post for you a sketch for the "day" - 26 June 1941, after a romanian
historian Mihai Retegan and a short story about those day.
" The leader "Moskva" and leader of "Kharkov" has opened fire of main calibre - shooting from all of five guns of the ship with an interval per 10 seconds. Fire was conducted without updating, but after the first shots on a coast there was a flame of the large fire in area of petroleum tanks.
At 5.04 answer- back fire on the leaders was opened poorly distinct in morning on a background of a coast 2 Romanian destroyers. The Romanian destroyers slowly moved on north. At 5.06 on the head leader have noticed two cannon flares of 280-mm of the coastal artillery battery "Tirpitz".
"Moskva", having stopped at 5.12 artillery fire and having put a smoke, sharply has turned on a rate of a leaving.
The unexpected turn of the leader has brought down aim shooting of the opponent. Behind of "Moskva" the zigzag went the leader of "Kharkov".
At 5.20 from the ships have noticed a trace of two torpedos going directly on "Moscow". From "Kharkov" have transferred to "Moskva" an order to increase speed and to go directly.
But in one minute at the moment of evasion from torpedos to the right above "Moskva" the pole of water has risen, of fire and smoke on height more than 30 meters (are higher than masts).
The ship has remained without movement. 76-mm the gun continued shooting on the appeared plane of the opponent.
At once after explosion the following picture was presented. The plating and set of the case in area of 1-st and 2 boiler branches from the left board were destroyed. The ship gone almost 30-central speed, began to break in the middle. "

Regards,
VladAlex.

[jopaerya]

Hi VladAlex

Here the information from the book "Artillerie im Küstenkampf" after a postwar report from
Oblt.z.See d.R. Dahlbüdding . I have heard the wreck was found not so long ago .

http://www.mydive.ro/en/pasiune-si-dete ... -70-de-ani

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Two other very blurry picture's from this batterie during a visit , picture's are from Ebay .

Regards Jos

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I found these two nice images of the Batt. Tirpitz:

Which was the exact model of these 28cm guns? L40, L45 or L50

Images from EBay
Sturm78

[ROLAND1369]

If this is in fact BTY Tirpiz, they are 280 MM SKL 45.

[jopaerya]

Hello All

The first picture looks the same as the M.K.B. Tirplitz at Voorne ( Holland ) replaced in 02-1942 in Constanza ,
some man working on the first picture have those typical balkan headwear so it could be Constanza .

Regards Jos

[urban constanta]

I also went to the Tirpitz compund, unfortunately as REVERSE already said on his blog the military base is not in a very good shape. So based on the intel (patterns of bunkers design and bunker placement in the field) i gathered after exploring Elisabeta and Tudor military bases i've searched the area of Tirpitz via google earth. And my theory was right i think i have found one of the gun emplacements.





Again based on the field knowledge i state that the rectangle shape on the left end of the gun emplacement is an unfdrground 1 or 2 level bunker (i think is a 2 or more levels bunker, same as the ones at Tudor and Elisabeta).

[na4222]

Hi all,

I found these two nice images of the Batt. Tirpitz:

Which was the exact model of these 28cm guns? L40, L45 or L50

Images from EBay
Sturm78

Dear All,

Further to Sturm78's photo post above, and further to the debate as to whether the photo was taken in Romania or in Holland, please find below a scan of the back of the first photograph in Sturm78's post. If anyone can read what is written it may cast some light on where the photo was taken.

Best regards,

Nezar