What is this gun?

[nuyt]

From Spielberger

[Manuferey]

This seems to be the same gun but viewed from the front (source: ebay.de). It looks like a 7,5 cm FK38 but with a different wave pattern on top of the shield.



Emmanuel

[nuyt]

Great find, thank you!

It could be a forerunner of the FK18.

Nuyt

[Manuferey]

I think that the uniforms on the ebay picture are polish. If it’s the case, the gun could indeed be a 7,5 cm FK18 called 7,5 cm leFK18 by the Poles. See here:
http://www.1939.pl/uzbrojenie/niemiecki ... index.html

Emmanuel

[nuyt]

Hi Emmanuel,

I don't understand, did Poland have the Krupp 7,5 cm FK18? Wow!

Nuyt

[Manuferey]

That's what it looks like ! Maybe some Polish friends can help us here.

Emmanuel

[Grzesio]

No, the web site deals with September Campaign of 1939 and this gun is described in the "German Weapons" section.
The gun is called 7,5 cm leFK 18 L/26 in "Die deutschen Geschuetze 1939-1945" by von Senger und Etterlin indeed.

Regards

Grzesio

[nuyt]

OK, thats solved then.
But our piece is not the lFK18.
It has a different shield and a boxtrail. Besides we have no good view of the gun itself so we can not estimate the calibre long.
It must be a forerunner to the FK18.

[Manuferey]

Another picture of this mysterious gun:



Source: Dannell Boyd's Pictures- Album: WW German # 19 - Photo # 115
(Start from: http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dl ... t=he&GUID=)

Emmanuel

[nuyt]

Tks Manu!
The carriage sure reminds a bit of the various infantry guns the Germans had....

[Manuferey]

Here is another picture (from an expired ebay auction) of our mysterious gun.



Emmanuel

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi All

Is it the same gun as discussed here
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1523196
and
http://www.network54.com/Forum/330333/t ... ry+weapons

Clive

PS It does have many features that were to be seen on many later German guns.

[Manuferey]

Hi Clive,

Yes, it is the same gun. We still haven't found its designation.

Here is a link on the IWM site with a sharper picture than the one posted by nuyt at the beginning of this thread. According to IWM, the picture was taken during field maneuvers of the Reichswehr in 1932:
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205023019

And here is another picture of this gun from ebay.com that shows details of the front portion:


Emmanuel

[peeved]

Fuzzy shot from exp. eBay.de auction http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40 ... 324&_rdc=1 Is it just me or does the barrel look shorter and shield different from previous photos and what's that roller under the recoil brake?

Markus

[Clive Mortimore]

Fuzzy shot from exp. eBay.de auction http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40 ... 324&_rdc=1 Is it just me or does the barrel look shorter and shield different from previous photos and what's that roller under the recoil brake?

Markus

Hi Markus

We are not looking at a 7.5cm FK 18 in this picture? Just trying to eliminate all possibilities.

Clive