What is this gun?

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 05 Sep 2016 19:26

Alexander Taper-Bore wrote:
Alanmccoubrey wrote:But if it is aleFH16 why is there a cylinder above the barrel ?
pls read the earlier posts, ther Erla came with just that

I know that, I was just pointing out to schwarzermai why it couldn't be the leFH16, perhaps you should read his post too.
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Re: What is this gun?

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by schwarzermai » 21 Nov 2016 07:05

Hello

It is a pity that you can not recognize the label on the carriage - maybe all pre-1933 guns are labeled?

for examples:

you can see "Laf. 2" here
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... &mode=view

# 5 here
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... ?id=228098

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by Manuferey » 09 Dec 2017 14:31

A remaining Erla in France today:
http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.net/pa ... 2879_1.htm
Erlabplumier.jpg
Erlabplumier2.jpg
(photos Jean-Christophe Foray)
With message here:
http://canonspgmww1guns.canalblog.com/a ... 85282.html

Note that the first gun shown in the above message is a 7.5 cm leFK18 and not a 7.5 cm FK38. :wink:


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Re: What is this gun?

Post by nuyt » 10 Dec 2017 14:58

Fantastic, another mystery solved!

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Dec 2017 18:15

It is incredible that a specimen of this rare howitzer has survived in such good conditions!! 8O
The tube is marked with the year 1917. This is strange ... I guess these howitzers would be made at the beginning of the 1930s, right?

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by Manuferey » 10 Dec 2017 22:53

Sturm78 wrote:The tube is marked with the year 1917. This is strange ... I guess these howitzers would be made at the beginning of the 1930s, right?
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The carriage was made in the early 30's but it reused a leFH16 barrel from WW1.

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by nuyt » 11 Dec 2017 10:34

Manuferey wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:The tube is marked with the year 1917. This is strange ... I guess these howitzers would be made at the beginning of the 1930s, right?
Sturm78
The carriage was made in the early 30's but it reused a leFH16 barrel from WW1.

Emmanuel
They were built in 1924-25 (see p 3) with barrels of the leFH16 Krupp to be more precise :)

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by schwarzermai » 11 Dec 2017 10:49

Hello @ all

exciting thread!! Thanks to all!!

no info about "Erla" in Waffen-Arsenal # 125 - so i think this variant was built in small numbers only

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by peeved » 11 Dec 2017 22:43

nuyt wrote:
Manuferey wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:The tube is marked with the year 1917. This is strange ... I guess these howitzers would be made at the beginning of the 1930s, right?
Sturm78
The carriage was made in the early 30's but it reused a leFH16 barrel from WW1.

Emmanuel
They were built in 1924-25 (see p 3) with barrels of the leFH16 Krupp to be more precise :)
The conversion was designed in 1924-25 according to p.3 but that excerpt seems not to deal with Erla manufacture to be even more precise :) .

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by Manuferey » 12 Dec 2017 02:15

schwarzermai wrote:Hello @ all
exciting thread!! Thanks to all!!
no info about "Erla" in Waffen-Arsenal # 125 - so i think this variant was built in small numbers only
uwe
This is one of the things I like about this forum: going where no historian has been before ! 8-)

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by nuyt » 12 Dec 2017 08:45

peeved wrote:
nuyt wrote:
Manuferey wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:The tube is marked with the year 1917. This is strange ... I guess these howitzers would be made at the beginning of the 1930s, right?
Sturm78
The carriage was made in the early 30's but it reused a leFH16 barrel from WW1.

Emmanuel
They were built in 1924-25 (see p 3) with barrels of the leFH16 Krupp to be more precise :)
The conversion was designed in 1924-25 according to p.3 but that excerpt seems not to deal with Erla manufacture to be even more precise :) .

Markus
Correct, then I'd still date manufacture of this relatively small series in the second half of the 20s since this was a typical "replacement job", the only thing the Germans were allowed to do with their artillery while Versailles was still in vigor.

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by schwarzermai » 12 Aug 2018 01:25

Hello

one more erla (source ebay) - in the back on the right side

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by schwarzermai » 18 Jul 2020 19:17

Hello

one more ERLA 10,5 cm F.H. 16

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Re: What is this gun?

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jan 2022 18:21

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:

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