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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 29 Jun 2017, 02:49

Manuferey wrote:A 28 cm Küstenhaubitze but which type? C/97 or C/07 or other?

Refer to the pictures and posts of 2011 in the thread "Unkonwn gun" here:
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It looks very old-mayby this type.
I wished to know where it stood exactly on Tubpl.

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Post by forttravel » 09 Aug 2017, 21:26

forttravel wrote:It looks like kind of Krupp howitzer 28 cm? It was a monument of 1ww fallen citizens of Schomberg (Upper Silesia, now Poland).
Similar piece from Port Arthur. Japanese collection of captured Russian artillery.
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Post by forttravel » 19 Aug 2017, 23:12

It seems that for both monuments were used 28 cm Russian howitzer captured on opposite peripheries of empire. Attached complete example from 1ww period in Finland.
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Post by Sturm78 » 25 Sep 2017, 21:44

Hi all,

Can somebody identify these guns ??

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Post by schwarzermai » 28 Sep 2017, 18:40

Hello

any idea about this old gun? maybe polish one?

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thanks uwe
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Post by jopaerya » 28 Sep 2017, 19:30

Hello Uwe

Could it be a Dutch 6-Veld kanon ?

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Post by schwarzermai » 28 Sep 2017, 21:13

Hello Jos
thanks for your help - think it matched - Uwe
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Post by Clive Mortimore » 29 Sep 2017, 09:02

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify these guns ??

Sturm78
Hi Sturm

They look like one of the versions of the Krupp 75mm gun widely sold pre WW1.

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Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 29 Sep 2017, 12:58

Clive Mortimore wrote:
Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify these guns ??

Sturm78
Hi Sturm

They look like one of the versions of the Krupp 75mm gun widely sold pre WW1.

Clive
Exactly, this is the Bofors version.

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Post by YC Chen » 29 Sep 2017, 15:56

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ??

Image from nimh-beeldbank.defensie

Sturm78
Hello Sturm78,

This picture is amazing!! Could you please tell me more about it, are there any captions?

The gun on this picture is identical to the 8.8cm L/31 gun-howitzer which German engineers introduced to Chinese warlord Yan Xishan (Yen Hsi-shan) in late 1920s. He made this gun in small numbers in Taiyuan Arsenal as Type 18 field gun. It was presumably a gun-howitzer designed by Rheinmetall back in 1918 but I have never seen a picture, but it seems that this one is an exact match!

There are still 2 surviving examples of this in China, for a photo of one of them see here: viewtopic.php?f=101&t=162448&start=15&hilit=Jin+made

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Post by peeved » 29 Sep 2017, 19:19

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ??

Image from nimh-beeldbank.defensie

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YC Chen wrote:The gun on this picture is identical to the 8.8cm L/31 gun-howitzer which German engineers introduced to Chinese warlord Yan Xishan (Yen Hsi-shan) in late 1920s. He made this gun in small numbers in Taiyuan Arsenal as Type 18 field gun. It was presumably a gun-howitzer designed by Rheinmetall back in 1918 but I have never seen a picture
Well,
Now you have.

Pic of a Rheinmetall original from Wehrtechnische Monatshefte 1/1940.

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Post by Alexander Taper-Bore » 29 Sep 2017, 21:16

No I disagree, the pic of Sturm is from a Bofors catalogue and shows a 75mm field gun by that company.
By the way many thanks for that last Rheinmetall picture! Was looking for it a long time....

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Post by YC Chen » 30 Sep 2017, 04:51

Hello,

Thank you for the informative comment, and especially for the last Rheinmetall picture!

Please see these photos - I managed to find the photo of the carriages of both 2 surviving Type 18. They are unfortunately not of the same angle, but I think their carriage is the same as Sturm's picture but different from the 8.8cm Rheinmetall gun (especially the foldable spade). But the Type 18 is indeed a 8.8cm L/31, perhaps similar barrels mounted on different carriages?
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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Oct 2017, 21:44

Clive wrote
They look like one of the versions of the Krupp 75mm gun widely sold pre WW1.
Alexander wrote
Exactly, this is the Bofors version.
Thanks, Clive and Alexander. Is it possible identify the exact model....or the buyer country ?

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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Oct 2017, 21:50

About my image posted on 09 Apr 2017...I agree with Alexander. I think not match exactly with the Rheinmetall gun posted by Markus.
I think the shield of the Type 18 chinese gun is very similar to the one my gun (Bofors) posted on 09 April....

Alexander, Do you know the Bofors designation for this gun ? Buyers ?

About the Rheinmetall gun posted by Markus, what was his exact caliber ? 90mm, 88mm ?
Why Rheinmetall designed this gun in 1917-18? :? As a substitute of 7.7cm FK16 ?? :?

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