Id. old gun

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

10.5cm leFH16 howitzer ??
Note the rare tow axle cart trailer.....

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from Ebay. Acording to caption Romanian howitzers. Can somebody identify the model ?

Sturm78

[na4222]

Looks like a 10.5cm K 331(f) with the gun pulled back? I'm giving the German designation as I can't remember the French designation.

Nezar

[Clive Mortimore]

Nobody ??

Well, here another image from Ebay. Acording to caption Romanian howitzers. Can somebody identify the model ?

Sturm78

From "Artileria Romana In Date Si Imagini" by Col Stroea and Lt Col Bajenaru they are Obuzier "Krupp-Putilov" Cal 122mm Model 1909.

[Sturm78]

Clive wrote
From "Artileria Romana In Date Si Imagini" by Col Stroea and Lt Col Bajenaru they are Obuzier "Krupp-Putilov" Cal 122mm Model 1909.

Hi Clive,

I think it's not a Krupp-Putilov 122mm M1909. In any case I think it is closer to a Schneider-Putilov 122mm M1910 but there are also many differences:

The shield is completely different, the wheels not match and I think the cradle either.....
These Romanian howitzers seems to have a handwheel in front of the shield....

Perhaps a Schneider export model for Romania....??

See http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/122H1040_1.jpg for the Russian 122mm M1910

Sturm78

[Clive Mortimore]

Clive wrote
From "Artileria Romana In Date Si Imagini" by Col Stroea and Lt Col Bajenaru they are Obuzier "Krupp-Putilov" Cal 122mm Model 1909.

Hi Clive,

I think it's not a Krupp-Putilov 122mm M1909. In any case I think it is closer to a Schneider-Putilov 122mm M1910 but there are also many differences:

The shield is completely different, the wheels not match and I think the cradle either.....
These Romanian howitzers seems to have a handwheel in front of the shield....

Perhaps a Schneider export model for Romania....??

See http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/122H1040_1.jpg for the Russian 122mm M1910

Sturm78

Hi Sturm

I think this gun looks more like the one you first posted than the one on the Jaegerplatoon site. Pity I cannot speak Romanian.

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[Sturm78]

Hi Clive,

Here two images from the net of the 122mm Krupp-Putilov M1909 howitzer.
I think the Romanian howitzers (in my image and in yours, posted yesterday) are not clearly an 122mm Krupp M1909.

I still think that the Romanian howitzers of my image are a model of the Schneider company....Which ??? Somebody ??

Sturm78

[shamirnewell]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_ ... r_M1910/30

[Sturm78]

Hi shamirnewell,

I don`t think 122mm M1910-30 ...it is similar design but there are several differencies. See my post of 30 Nov 2017....

Sturm78

[veviloss]

This is an Obusier de 10.5 cm Schneider from Musée Royal de l'Armée, Brussels. A lot in common with the Romanian example
Source: http://www.passioncompassion1418.com/Ca ... fiche=1225

Dimitris Lampaditis
Athens, Hellas

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi Strum

I think the two Colonels have made an error in their labeling of the photo. It is a Schneider design, I think it is a 122mm model 10 Schneider-Putilov.

Hi Dimitris

I cannot find any reference to the Romanians having Schneider 105mm Howitzers during WW1. The trouble with Schneider guns and howitzers of the period they all look similar.

[Sturm78]

Dimitris wrote
This is an Obusier de 10.5 cm Schneider from Musée Royal de l'Armée, Brussels. A lot in common with the Romanian example
Source: http://www.passioncompassion1418.com/Ca ... fiche=1225

Thanks for your answer, Dimitris....There are some similitudes between your image of 105mm Schneider howitzer and the two howitzers of my image posted on 29 Nov 2017,,,but there are a lot of differences, also..

Without doubt the Romanian howitzers are a Schneider design but....Which ???

In this link http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?section=18 is not said nothing about any 105mm, 120mm or 155mm Schneider howitzer in Romanian Army use....

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ??

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[schwarzermai]

Hello

any idea? Location maybe Norway at Heeres-Küsten-Artillerie unit



thanks uwe

[na4222]

10.5cm K 331 (f) ?