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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by ALVF » 09 Dec 2022, 09:01

Hello,

On the 522 Topic: it is a russian 152 mm high power gun with a Caterpillar 75 HP, captured by germans in 1917.
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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 09 Dec 2022, 21:13

ALVF wrote
On the 522 Topic: it is a russian 152 mm high power gun with a Caterpillar 75 HP, captured by germans in 1917.
Thank you, Guy but.....What exact model is the "Russian 152mm high power gun" ?? :?
I know the 152mm M1910 Schneider-Putilov model but I think it is not the same model than the gun of my image...

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by ALVF » 09 Dec 2022, 23:09

Hello,

It is a russian 152 mm Canet coast gun used in land warfare. It was transported in two loads:
-the barrel (the photograph in 522 Topic).
-the coast mount.
The two loads were tracted each by a Caterpillar 75 HP.
I have two photographs of a same gun and his mount from an album of Otto Mertens (Fliegerabteilung A 242).
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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 10 Dec 2022, 13:35

Guy wrote
It is a russian 152 mm Canet coast gun used in land warfare. It was transported in two loads:
-the barrel (the photograph in 522 Topic).
-the coast mount.
The two loads were tracted each by a Caterpillar 75 HP.
I have two photographs of a same gun and his mount from an album of Otto Mertens (Fliegerabteilung A 242).
Thank you for your answer, Guy
I guess that you refers to the 152mm Canet M1892 L45 Russian coastal gun
It would be very interesting to see your images as I never have seen this gun in land use in fire position.

I posted an image several yeras ago here viewtopic.php?f=70&t=111267&p=1375885&h ... i#p1375885
Post number 353

I think could be the same gun. What is your opinion, Guy ?

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by AvB » 11 Dec 2022, 21:51

What's this French battery and what's visible in the background?
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Post by jopaerya » 11 Dec 2022, 22:26

Hello Arthur

The Batterie is in Calais ( Bastion II ), the building is unknown for me and is gone .

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Post by AvB » 11 Dec 2022, 22:37

Thanks jos! Strange building! It was demolished by the Germans somewhere in 1941/1942. Afterwards it became the area of Wn Dogge.
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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by apollo111 » 13 Dec 2022, 10:57

Help identify AA gun:
Orig. Foto 3,7 cm Zwilling Beute Flak Geschütz in CHERBOURG Normandie Frankreich.jpg

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by jopaerya » 13 Dec 2022, 12:47

A French twin 37 mm Mle 1933 DCA at Fort Querqueville near Cherbourg, Regards Jos

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Post by apollo111 » 14 Dec 2022, 06:48

Thank you very much jopaerya.

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by ALVF » 20 Dec 2022, 09:28

Hello,

For the answer to the 522, 526 to 529 topics, I enclose a detail of my photograph of the coast carriage (152 mm Canet coast gun) tracted by an 75 HP Holt caterpillar. The other photograph is the same of the referenced photograph in 529 topic.
For the guns on the field, see the beautiful book "Artillery of the Russian Army in WW 1" (in russian!), difficult to buy in these years!
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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2022, 20:33

Thank you for the answer and your additional image, Guy... :wink:

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Feb 2023, 22:37

Hi all,

An image of a 28cm Küstenhaubitze C07 German coastal howitzer
Does anyone know if these howitzers were used operationally during wWW2 ??

Image from Ebay

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by schwarzermai » 25 Feb 2023, 06:18

Hello Sturm, the 28cm Küstenhaubitze were used in Battery 724

- 21.11.1939 - aufgestellt gemäß Befehl Chef H. Rüst. u. B.d.E. vom 16.11.1939 im
Wehrkreis XI durch 1./schwere Artillerie-Ersatz-Abteilung (mot.) 55 in Braunschweig
- Bewaffnung: 3 x 28 cm Küstenhaubitze L/12
- 11.12.1939 – XXX. Armeekorps – eingetroffen auf Bahnhof Lebach
- 11.12.1939 – wird nach Honzrath/Saarland transportiert, wo der feldmäßige Einbau erfolgt – wird der 214. Infanterie-Division unterstellt (Bettungen fehlen noch)
- 18.12.1939 – Notiz XXX. Armeekorps – „Laut Gutachten Festungs-Pionier-Stab 2 wird Feuerbereitschaft erst ab März 1940 hergestellt sein.“
- Stand 15.01.1940 - O.K.H./Org. Abt., Kriegsgliederung des Feldheeres - gelistet als schwere Stellungs-Batterie 724 unter Stellungsartillerie im Bereich der 1. Armee

- 13.2.1940 – Bericht der schweren Stellungs-Batterie 724 über Einbau der Geschütze:
- 13.12.1939 – Erkundung der Stellung, Absteckung der Geschützstände und der Stollen, Geschützstände vermessen
- Es standen durchschnittlich täglich 60 Arbeitskräfte der eigenen Batterie und 80 Mannschaften zugeteilter Baukräfte zur Verfügung. Arbeitsdauer 60 Tage
- Folgende Bauten wurden ausgeführt: 1.) Tarnung der Batterieanlage, 2.) Anlage des Zuführweges von 450 m Länge und 4 m Breite (für Heranführung der Schwerstlasten), 3.) Aushebung von 3 Bettungsgruben (gesamt 350 cbm Erdreich), 4.) Bau der Stollen, 5.) Bau von 3 Baracken
- Zur Heranführung der Schwerstlasten (Geschütze) wurden je 2 Zugkraftwagen 18 t für 20 Tage benötigt – darin enthalten: 3 Rohre mit Wiege (je 18 t), 3 Lafetten mit eingeschraubter Holzbettung (je 35 t), 54 Bettungsbalken je 6 – 7 m lang zu 30 x 30 cm, 11 Munitionskarren, Geschützzubehör und Ersatzteile
- Dauer Einbau Lafette und Rohr je Geschütz: 12 Tage

- 1.6.1940 – bei A.O.K. 1/Höheres Kommando XXXXV
- 5.6.1940 – Notiz B.d.E. – „steht zur Aufstellung von Küstenbatterien zur Verfügung: bei A.O.K. 1 …. Personal-Batterie der Stellungs-Batterie 724“ – die Einheit ist durch Militärbefehlshaber Belgien unmittelbar bei A.O.K. anzufordern
- 23.6.1940 – Notiz O.K.H./General der Artillerie – „Neuaufstellung kommt nicht in Frage.“
- 24.7.1940 – aufgelöst

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Re: Id. old gun

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Post by Sturm78 » 26 Feb 2023, 21:00

Thank you, Uwe.

So, the image was, probably, taken in Saarland in 1940...
Here, another image

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