Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

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Re: Which kind of flakgun ist this one?

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Post by ThatZenoGuy » 20 Jun 2021, 18:37

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Hi Grzesio,

I did not know that a normal magazine could be attached to a gun designed in principle for drum-fed....

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Depends on the gun in question really, a drum magazine is basically a stick magazine re-oriented into a spiral, the principle is the same, springs or some other mechanism forces rounds to the feeding position.

I cannot think of a gun off the top of my head that cannot use both drums and stick mags (excluding guns where stick mags simply were never even tried in the first place).

PPSh, Tommygun, AA-12, all can use both freely.

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Re: Which kind of flakgun ist this one?

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Post by Grzesio » 21 Jun 2021, 10:32

For example, as far as WW2 cannons are concerned, MK 101 and 2 cm Flak 38 had both box and drum magazines.


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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Jun 2021, 23:49

Grzesio wrote
For example, as far as WW2 cannons are concerned, MK 101 and 2 cm Flak 38 had both box and drum magazines.
Ummmhhhh...are you sure that 2cm Flak 38 had a drum magazine ? I have never seen any image....

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Post by Grzesio » 23 Jun 2021, 09:58

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Ummmhhhh...are you sure that 2cm Flak 38 had a drum magazine ? I have never seen any image....
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Yes, it had, two types were developed very late in the war, by Mauser and Keller u. Knappich, and successfully tested. They were approved for production in late February 1945 and delivery of the first batch was scheduled on April 1 only. So most probably they never reached the troops, even if the production was started at all. :)

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Post by TiesG » 23 Jun 2021, 21:34

What kind of gun might this one be? Picture is from Marine Flak Batterie Konstantia, Emden in 1939-1940
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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Jun 2021, 22:15

Grzesio wrote
Yes, it had, two types were developed very late in the war, by Mauser and Keller u. Knappich, and successfully tested. They were approved for production in late February 1945 and delivery of the first batch was scheduled on April 1 only. So most probably they never reached the troops, even if the production was started at all. :)
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What kind of gun might this one be? Picture is from Marine Flak Batterie Konstantia, Emden in 1939-1940
It is difficult to ensure but I would say a 3.7cm MK Maxim gun or 40mm 2pdr VickerS Pom Pom

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Post by TiesG » 24 Jun 2021, 21:46

Thanks Sturm78!

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Jun 2021, 08:47

@ Ties, looking at the pivot , I would go for the 3.7 cm M.K. also used by the Marine Flak .
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Post by TiesG » 25 Jun 2021, 22:36

Thanks Jos!

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Post by Sturm78 » 07 Feb 2023, 22:17

Hi all,

An 2cm Flak 28 Oerlikon gun on a rare static mount

Image from Ebay
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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

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Post by ThatZenoGuy » 10 Feb 2023, 14:10

Grzesio wrote:
23 Jun 2021, 09:58
Sturm78 wrote:
22 Jun 2021, 23:49
Ummmhhhh...are you sure that 2cm Flak 38 had a drum magazine ? I have never seen any image....
Sturm78
Yes, it had, two types were developed very late in the war, by Mauser and Keller u. Knappich, and successfully tested. They were approved for production in late February 1945 and delivery of the first batch was scheduled on April 1 only. So most probably they never reached the troops, even if the production was started at all. :)
Any documents/pictures of these magazines?

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Jun 2023, 20:20

Hi all,

An image from Ebay. I would say an 2cm Oerlikon gun. According to Ebay photo caption, Bulgarian soldiers....Is this correct ?

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Nov 2023, 21:02

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2023, 23:32

Hi all,

According to Ebay photo caption a Bulgarian gun in 1943. Can somebody confirm that the soldiers are Bulgarian ??

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Post by Tanzania » 07 Jan 2024, 11:03

Only just for fun, I can't even see which one is supposed to be the actual gun barrel.

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