Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Grzesio » 20 Nov 2012 09:36

Great manual, thanks! :)
The gun was designated as Modell S, not Typ S as I see.

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Nov 2012 10:42

Hi Grzesio,

I think this gun (Model S of the manual) was not adopted by German Army. I think German Army adopted a more modern version with a three legs mount and metal wheels with solid rubber tires

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Grzesio » 20 Nov 2012 11:54

That's the question!
There were models F, L and S in 1920s, there were FF F, FF L and FF S in mid 1930's... Was there something else in between, in late 1920s? Was there "Oerlikon FF" (without F, L or S suffixes) at all?
And what were the actual barrel lengths of the German Oerlikons (2 cm Flak 38 and naval 2 cm Flak 29) - 60 or 70 calibres?
One of the problems I see in interpreting photographs is, Germans obviously used much more captured Oerlikon guns than their original ones of late 1920s, so it's hard to distinguish actual variants.

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by jopaerya » 20 Nov 2012 15:43

Here a ammo box for 2 cm M.G. FF "M" http://wehrmachts.kisten.free.fr/mgff.htm

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 22 Nov 2012 12:23

Hi all,

Another three images of German AA Oerlikon guns. I think this is the model adopted by German Army.
German designation Flak 28. I do not know the manufacturer designation :(

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Grzesio » 22 Nov 2012 12:43

It would be interesting to learn, how many original 2 cm Flak 28 guns were delivered to Germany and when.
As I understand, it was a transitional model adopted in late 1920s for initial training, before new types (2 cm Flak 30) could be introduced - in such a case "real" 2 cm Flak 28s should be rather rare and not numerous.

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Jan 2013 11:21

Hi all,

In the absence of any additional information :( ,another image from Ebay:

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by peeved » 27 Jan 2013 20:05

Were there two firing positions from the tripod:
The low...
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Post by peeved » 27 Jan 2013 20:06

...and the high.

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by JKernwerk » 27 Jan 2013 22:08

Nice!
Did not know that Peeved.
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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Feb 2013 16:47

Hi all,

An image from Ebay:

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Nov 2013 10:50

Hi all,

An image of a 2cm Flak 29 Oerlikon naval gun:

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Mar 2014 17:25

Hi all,

A gun with wooden wheels:

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Manuferey » 21 Mar 2014 01:05

It looks like a 2 cm Flak 28 Oerlikon. :idea:

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Re: Wich kind of flakgun ist this one?

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Mar 2014 20:15

Hi all,

Another 2cm Flak 28:

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Emmanuel wrote
It looks like a 2 cm Flak 28 Oerlikon. :idea:
Emmanuel, all guns of this thread are 2cm Oerlikon guns... :wink:
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