Romanian AT gun

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Romanian AT gun

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Feb 2009 18:29

Hi all,

Can anyone identify this Romanian AT gun? The limber seems of Russian origin.
Image from Ebay.de

Greetings.
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Manuferey » 01 Feb 2009 19:01

Here is a list of artillery used by Rumania in WW2:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?section=18

Maybe a 5 cm Pak 38 on your picture?

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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 01 Feb 2009 20:21

Are they not the 47mm Schneider Model 36 ? Sadly the Romanian site doesn't have that particular gun in the weapons section but there are pictures in the gallery, you'll just have to look through it.
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by nuyt » 01 Feb 2009 22:12

ex-Polish Bofors 37mm?

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 02 Feb 2009 11:51

I must stop being polite and saying things like "Are they not ....?" when really I know they are. The guns are 47mm Schneider M36.

http://www.worldwar2.ro/foto/?id=411&area=31

and not Bofors 37mm.

http://www.worldwar2.ro/foto/?id=16&area=31
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Feb 2009 12:49

Hi Alanmccoubrey,

Have you more information about this Schneider 47mm Mle 1936 AT gun? Specifications??
I think that this gun was not adopted by the French army. Was a model for export only?

Regards Sturm78.

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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 02 Feb 2009 15:16

You are correct, the French never adopted it, the Romanians ordered 160 of them before the war and all had been delivered before the fall of France. I have never seen the specifications anywhere, which might explain why only the name appears on the Romanian site ! certainly Google hasn't produced anything on it, sorry.
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 02 Feb 2009 18:07

My friend Bob MacKenzie has provided me with the following, Weight 500KG; Muzzle velocity 855 metre per second; Penetration 70mm at 30deg at 400m.
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Feb 2009 19:10

Thank you Alanmccoubrey. :D

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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by nuyt » 02 Feb 2009 22:15

[quote="Alanmccoubrey"]I must stop being polite and saying things like "Are they not ....?" when really I know they are. The guns are 47mm Schneider M36.

You shouldn't 8-)

Kosar gives the follwoing info for the Schneider 47 mm L/44, conflicting with your friend Bob Mckenzie's:
Weight 628 kilo
Initial velocity 675 m/sec
Range 6700 metres
No penetration details

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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 03 Feb 2009 09:20

Goodness, that is a very long range for an anti-tank gun ! I'm a bit surprised the calibre length is only L/44, they look longer than the 47mm tank gun. Can you give me full details of "Kosar", sadly the only Kosar that I know played quarterback for the Cleveland Browns :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Ardee » 03 Feb 2009 18:22

Going off on a slight tangent -- the horses - is that the way the sun is hitting some kind of tack/harness, or are those the animal's ribs standing out in such relief? If those are ribs, I'd be shocked at their condition, especially given how much fodder seems present - though I don't know nutritional value of what's there, either. Still, for working horse to be so gaunt when it was so necessary....

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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 03 Feb 2009 21:43

Ardee, I know what you mean about the horses, there are pictures on the Romanian Forum linked above of the Romanians using four horses to tow the little 25mm !
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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by dragos03 » 03 Feb 2009 21:49

Definetly not the ribs, looks like a part of the harness or something.

Anyway, the 47mm AT guns were produced under license in Romania (and probably also during the war, after the license had expired). That might explain why the gun was slightly different than the original French models.

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Re: Romanian AT gun

Post by jopaerya » 12 Oct 2009 19:50

Hello

Is this a Romanian 7.5 cm PaK 97/38 ??

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos

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