Id. hungarian artillery

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 09 May 2013 17:18

Hi all,

I have, long time ago, this picture on my computer, identified as 15cm Skoda M14-16 howitzer captured from Czechoslovakia and reused by the Germans as 15cm sFH14-16t.

However, a more careful look shows that this howitzer have a type of muzzle brake and a longer barrel. This makes me think that maybe is one of the modernized variants of the Hungarians in the 30s: 1914/35M or 1914/39M. :?

Does anyone have any information and / or images of these upgrades?

Which was the modernization? What was the difference between the two upgrades?
It appears that the range was significantly improved.

Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 15 May 2013 20:27

Nobody?? :(

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Clive Mortimore » 15 May 2013 23:36

Hi Sturm

It has many features of the 10 cm sFH M14 or M14/19 but I have not seen that muzzle brake on one of these howitzers. The Hungarian 10.5 cm light howitzer M40 had a pepper pot muzzle brake but did not look like the gun in the photo.
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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by nuyt » 16 May 2013 11:04

Well, Sturm, if you would buy for instance Kosar's Artillerie im 20n Jahrhundert, you would not have so many doubts :)
Kosar shows this weapon as the Hungarian 149mm Field Howitzer M14/39 or 15cm 14/39 M, very few deatils.
It appears the barrel cal is longer than the original M14, that was L14. The Hungarian upgrade also had a better range: 10,7 km to 8.0 km. I have read somehwere about these weapons, including the 1935 model, but I forgot where.

Just a thought. Bofors made similar holes in the barrel and as Mavag had close contact with Bofors (and therefore Krupp) the answer may be kept by Swedes.

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 16 May 2013 11:06

Clive wrote
It has many features of the 10 cm sFH M14 or M14/19 but I have not seen that muzzle brake on one of these howitzers. The Hungarian 10.5 cm light howitzer M40 had a pepper pot muzzle brake but did not look like the gun in the photo.
Hi Clive,

I think this is not a 10cm weapon but rather a 15cm Skoda M14-16 modernized with a longer barrel and a muzzle break.
1914/35M or 1914/39M variant ?? :?

Any information or/and images about these hungarian upgrades will be wellcome.

Thanks in advance. Sturm78

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Clive Mortimore » 16 May 2013 23:14

Hi Sturm and Nuyt

Thanks guys.
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8 cm 22M.

Post by ain92 » 07 Dec 2013 18:15

Hello all.
I found information that 104th Hungarian armored train was armed with 8 cm 22M. field guns. Here's a photo:
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However, there's no information in the Internet (including AHF) about such a gun. Maybe some Hungarian handbooks can help?
Thanks in advance.
With best regards, Ilya.

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Sep 2014 10:10

Hi all,

Can somebody identify this gun ?? According to Ebay photocaption, hungarian

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Nov 2014 12:58

Nobody ??

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 09 Nov 2014 14:56

Sturm, it is definitely crewed by Hungarians and given the small size of the gun I'd guess it is their 8cm gun but I'll be damned if I can remember who made it unless it was Skoda.
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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Dec 2014 18:06

Hi all,

Can anyone identify the gun behind the Pavesi hungarian tractor?? :?

Image from EBay
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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by karlik » 13 Dec 2014 14:21

I think that this 105-mm gun 31M (Bofors) or 150-mm howitzer 31M (Bofors)

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 14 Dec 2014 10:45

Thank you, karlik

Do you have any wartime image of the 105mm 31M (Bofors) gun or 150mm 31M (Bofors) howitzer in hungarian service ??

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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by karlik » 14 Dec 2014 20:19

Sturm78 wrote: Do you have any wartime image of the 105mm 31M (Bofors) gun or 150mm 31M (Bofors) howitzer in hungarian service ??
Hi!
unfortunately only these
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Re: Id. hungarian artillery

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Dec 2014 09:55

Thank you, karlik. A pity the low quality of the images.... :(

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