s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Hi all,
Two other images from Bundesarchive:
Regards Sturm78
Two other images from Bundesarchive:
Regards Sturm78
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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Hello Sturm78
Very nice picture's , according to Alain Chazette the photo's are from H.K.B. 4./1253 ( Heuqueville )
Regards Jos
Very nice picture's , according to Alain Chazette the photo's are from H.K.B. 4./1253 ( Heuqueville )
Regards Jos
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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Any guesses how many of the original czech weapons would have been available to the Germans?
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Vz. 35 in Slovak use (Source eBay.de).
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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
According to book "Ceskoslovenske delostrelectvo 1918-1939" from Jiri Janousek Germans captured 70 cannons from Army stocks and another 36 cannons which were in production and were completed after occupation. Slovakia inherited 36 cannons from Army stocks.magicdragon wrote:Any guesses how many of the original czech weapons would have been available to the Germans?
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
According to Leo Niehorster in a post in the forum "felgrau.net" back in 2004:
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic ... 44&t=13217
"by Leo Niehorster on Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:35 pm
At the beginning of the war there were 59 in the German Army inventory. Skoda delivered another 49 guns during 1940."
"Source:
Fritz Hahn
"Waffen und Geheimwaffen des deutschen Heeres 1933-1945"
Bernard & Graefe, Koblenz, 1986
USBN 3-7637-5830-5"
Total according to F. Hahn: 59 + 49 = 108
Total according to J. Janousek: 70 + 36 = 106
These figures are very close !
Emmanuel
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic ... 44&t=13217
"by Leo Niehorster on Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:35 pm
At the beginning of the war there were 59 in the German Army inventory. Skoda delivered another 49 guns during 1940."
"Source:
Fritz Hahn
"Waffen und Geheimwaffen des deutschen Heeres 1933-1945"
Bernard & Graefe, Koblenz, 1986
USBN 3-7637-5830-5"
Total according to F. Hahn: 59 + 49 = 108
Total according to J. Janousek: 70 + 36 = 106
These figures are very close !
Emmanuel
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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
More info according to J. Janousek:
1934 - produced 2 prototypes - one according to army requirement and another according to Skoda proposal
1936 - 36 new guns delivered to army
1938 - there are 106 guns in army (not mentioned but probably without prototypes which were different from final guns)
+ order for another 36 guns
Export:
in 1938 Lithuania ordered 24 guns - to be delivered in 1940, they were produced but only 4 guns were delivered, other were confiscated by Germans
Netherland wanted up to 30 guns to be delivered to 1941 but deal was abandoned
Yugoslavia - ordered different variant named "J1" (original gun is "J"), delivered 24 guns in 1937
--- in Janousek's book is problem that he stated that last Czechoslovak order for 36 guns from 1938 was completed and also that Germany confiscated 20 guns from Lithuanian order but than Germans should have gained 2 (prototypes) + 70 (CS army) + 36 + 20 guns ie. 126 guns and 2 prototypes yet he did not count lithuanian guns in total number of German guns which is strange
Order and delivery of 36 guns originally intended for CS army but took over by Germans is also written in book "Ceskoslovenske delostrelecke zbrane" from Vladimir Karlicky. Otherwise there aren't any detailed informations about export.
According to internet pages http://armada.vojenstvi.cz/ which is private web but is done with cooperation with employee from Central Military Archive in Prague in page: http://armada.vojenstvi.cz/predvalecna/dokumenty/9.htm is this:
18th March 1939 - total number of CS guns in army - 106 - from that 40 guns in Slovakia
than there is info from another document about value of army possesions setting this number: 67 guns in Bohemia and Moravia and another 40 guns in Slovakia (in total 107)
--- German Army occupied also western part of Slovakia in 1939 and also here confiscated all weapons thus it is possible that Slovakia was finally left with only 36 guns although there should be originally 40 guns
--- number 107 total can be with one of prototypes (it was different than from serial guns but the other prototype was more different)
The main problem is that Lithuanian order add another 20 guns to German total numbers and I can not find any other info about it.
1934 - produced 2 prototypes - one according to army requirement and another according to Skoda proposal
1936 - 36 new guns delivered to army
1938 - there are 106 guns in army (not mentioned but probably without prototypes which were different from final guns)
+ order for another 36 guns
Export:
in 1938 Lithuania ordered 24 guns - to be delivered in 1940, they were produced but only 4 guns were delivered, other were confiscated by Germans
Netherland wanted up to 30 guns to be delivered to 1941 but deal was abandoned
Yugoslavia - ordered different variant named "J1" (original gun is "J"), delivered 24 guns in 1937
--- in Janousek's book is problem that he stated that last Czechoslovak order for 36 guns from 1938 was completed and also that Germany confiscated 20 guns from Lithuanian order but than Germans should have gained 2 (prototypes) + 70 (CS army) + 36 + 20 guns ie. 126 guns and 2 prototypes yet he did not count lithuanian guns in total number of German guns which is strange
Order and delivery of 36 guns originally intended for CS army but took over by Germans is also written in book "Ceskoslovenske delostrelecke zbrane" from Vladimir Karlicky. Otherwise there aren't any detailed informations about export.
According to internet pages http://armada.vojenstvi.cz/ which is private web but is done with cooperation with employee from Central Military Archive in Prague in page: http://armada.vojenstvi.cz/predvalecna/dokumenty/9.htm is this:
18th March 1939 - total number of CS guns in army - 106 - from that 40 guns in Slovakia
than there is info from another document about value of army possesions setting this number: 67 guns in Bohemia and Moravia and another 40 guns in Slovakia (in total 107)
--- German Army occupied also western part of Slovakia in 1939 and also here confiscated all weapons thus it is possible that Slovakia was finally left with only 36 guns although there should be originally 40 guns
--- number 107 total can be with one of prototypes (it was different than from serial guns but the other prototype was more different)
The main problem is that Lithuanian order add another 20 guns to German total numbers and I can not find any other info about it.
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Hi all,
I found this image on Ebay. I think it is the same gun of the first image of this topic:
Regards Sturm78
I found this image on Ebay. I think it is the same gun of the first image of this topic:
Regards Sturm78
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Hi all,
A small image from Ebay. In the foreground I think a destroyed barrel trailer:
Sturm78
A small image from Ebay. In the foreground I think a destroyed barrel trailer:
Sturm78
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Sturm78,
I think it is the same gun and location as on the pictures you posted on on 18 Dec 2009 at 08:22 (see previous page).
Emmanuel
I think it is the same gun and location as on the pictures you posted on on 18 Dec 2009 at 08:22 (see previous page).
Emmanuel
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
This looks to me like a 10.5 cm K35(t) in a camouflaged field position near a lake or a coastal area.
(from ebay.de)
Emmanuel
(from ebay.de)
Emmanuel
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Hi all,
A small image from Ebay. I think Slovak gun:
Sturm78
A small image from Ebay. I think Slovak gun:
Sturm78
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Here are pictures from an expired ebay.de showing 10.5 cm K35(t) guns in a coastal battery. The ebay caption said that they were taken near Dunkirk. Other pictures of the series showed a sign on a wall written in French and a lighthouse (which can be also seen in the background of the 4th picture). No date is mentioned. Any idea of the year and exact location?
Emmanuel
Emmanuel
Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)
Hello
For the total amount of 10.5 cm K 35(t) that were in use in early 1944 was 72 guns .
as you can see on several theaters H = Heer and K = Küstenartillerie
Regards Jos
For the total amount of 10.5 cm K 35(t) that were in use in early 1944 was 72 guns .
as you can see on several theaters H = Heer and K = Küstenartillerie
Regards Jos
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Hello Emmanuel
I realy don't know maybe we can make a list of all batterie's in the Atlantikwall that used this gun .
1941/1942
1./2./3./769 in Belgium later replaced south of Pas de Calais with 17 cm K 18
1./2./3./770 Seine- Somme
1943/1944
3./1253 ( Mers ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 813
1./1254 ( Ecqueville ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 1./778
2./1254 ( Fort St. Adresse ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 2./778
Regards Jos
p.s. do you have the picture of the lighthouse ??
I realy don't know maybe we can make a list of all batterie's in the Atlantikwall that used this gun .
1941/1942
1./2./3./769 in Belgium later replaced south of Pas de Calais with 17 cm K 18
1./2./3./770 Seine- Somme
1943/1944
3./1253 ( Mers ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 813
1./1254 ( Ecqueville ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 1./778
2./1254 ( Fort St. Adresse ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 2./778
Regards Jos
p.s. do you have the picture of the lighthouse ??