s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Sturm78 » 06 Oct 2010 11:27

Hi all,

Two other images from Bundesarchive:

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by jopaerya » 06 Oct 2010 13:25

Hello Sturm78

Very nice picture's , according to Alain Chazette the photo's are from H.K.B. 4./1253 ( Heuqueville )

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by magicdragon » 29 Oct 2010 00:06

Any guesses how many of the original czech weapons would have been available to the Germans?

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by peeved » 14 Nov 2010 21:12

Vz. 35 in Slovak use (Source eBay.de).

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Pavel Novak » 15 Nov 2010 18:42

magicdragon wrote:Any guesses how many of the original czech weapons would have been available to the Germans?
According to book "Ceskoslovenske delostrelectvo 1918-1939" from Jiri Janousek Germans captured 70 cannons from Army stocks and another 36 cannons which were in production and were completed after occupation. Slovakia inherited 36 cannons from Army stocks.

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Manuferey » 16 Nov 2010 04:09

According to Leo Niehorster in a post in the forum "felgrau.net" back in 2004:

http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic ... 44&t=13217

"by Leo Niehorster on Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:35 pm
At the beginning of the war there were 59 in the German Army inventory. Skoda delivered another 49 guns during 1940."
"Source:
Fritz Hahn
"Waffen und Geheimwaffen des deutschen Heeres 1933-1945"
Bernard & Graefe, Koblenz, 1986
USBN 3-7637-5830-5"

Total according to F. Hahn: 59 + 49 = 108
Total according to J. Janousek: 70 + 36 = 106

These figures are very close !

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Pavel Novak » 17 Nov 2010 12:48

More info according to J. Janousek:
1934 - produced 2 prototypes - one according to army requirement and another according to Skoda proposal
1936 - 36 new guns delivered to army
1938 - there are 106 guns in army (not mentioned but probably without prototypes which were different from final guns)
+ order for another 36 guns

Export:
in 1938 Lithuania ordered 24 guns - to be delivered in 1940, they were produced but only 4 guns were delivered, other were confiscated by Germans
Netherland wanted up to 30 guns to be delivered to 1941 but deal was abandoned

Yugoslavia - ordered different variant named "J1" (original gun is "J"), delivered 24 guns in 1937

--- in Janousek's book is problem that he stated that last Czechoslovak order for 36 guns from 1938 was completed and also that Germany confiscated 20 guns from Lithuanian order but than Germans should have gained 2 (prototypes) + 70 (CS army) + 36 + 20 guns ie. 126 guns and 2 prototypes yet he did not count lithuanian guns in total number of German guns which is strange


Order and delivery of 36 guns originally intended for CS army but took over by Germans is also written in book "Ceskoslovenske delostrelecke zbrane" from Vladimir Karlicky. Otherwise there aren't any detailed informations about export.


According to internet pages http://armada.vojenstvi.cz/ which is private web but is done with cooperation with employee from Central Military Archive in Prague in page: http://armada.vojenstvi.cz/predvalecna/dokumenty/9.htm is this:
18th March 1939 - total number of CS guns in army - 106 - from that 40 guns in Slovakia
than there is info from another document about value of army possesions setting this number: 67 guns in Bohemia and Moravia and another 40 guns in Slovakia (in total 107)

--- German Army occupied also western part of Slovakia in 1939 and also here confiscated all weapons thus it is possible that Slovakia was finally left with only 36 guns although there should be originally 40 guns
--- number 107 total can be with one of prototypes (it was different than from serial guns but the other prototype was more different)


The main problem is that Lithuanian order add another 20 guns to German total numbers and I can not find any other info about it.

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Dec 2010 10:05

Hi all,

I found this image on Ebay. I think it is the same gun of the first image of this topic:

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Jan 2011 17:14

Hi all,

A small image from Ebay. In the foreground I think a destroyed barrel trailer:

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Manuferey » 02 Jan 2011 23:43

Sturm78,

I think it is the same gun and location as on the pictures you posted on on 18 Dec 2009 at 08:22 (see previous page). 8-)

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Manuferey » 27 Feb 2011 16:05

This looks to me like a 10.5 cm K35(t) in a camouflaged field position near a lake or a coastal area.

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Mar 2011 11:42

Hi all,

A small image from Ebay. I think Slovak gun:

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by Manuferey » 18 May 2011 15:46

Here are pictures from an expired ebay.de showing 10.5 cm K35(t) guns in a coastal battery. The ebay caption said that they were taken near Dunkirk. Other pictures of the series showed a sign on a wall written in French and a lighthouse (which can be also seen in the background of the 4th picture). No date is mentioned. Any idea of the year and exact location?

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by jopaerya » 18 May 2011 18:02

Hello

For the total amount of 10.5 cm K 35(t) that were in use in early 1944 was 72 guns .
as you can see on several theaters H = Heer and K = Küstenartillerie

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Re: s.10.5 cm K.35 (t)

Post by jopaerya » 18 May 2011 18:18

Hello Emmanuel

I realy don't know maybe we can make a list of all batterie's in the Atlantikwall that used this gun .

1941/1942

1./2./3./769 in Belgium later replaced south of Pas de Calais with 17 cm K 18
1./2./3./770 Seine- Somme

1943/1944
3./1253 ( Mers ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 813
1./1254 ( Ecqueville ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 1./778
2./1254 ( Fort St. Adresse ) 4 x 10.5 cm K.35(t) old number 2./778

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p.s. do you have the picture of the lighthouse ??

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