Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
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Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Hi all,
The Abwehrflammenwerfer 42 or Defencive Flamethrower Model 1942 was a commonly used weapon for covering 'dead ground' around bunkers in the Channel Islands.
I understand it was coppied from a Russian model?
Has anybody got more info on its 'history' and what it was capable of doing???
Malcolm
The Abwehrflammenwerfer 42 or Defencive Flamethrower Model 1942 was a commonly used weapon for covering 'dead ground' around bunkers in the Channel Islands.
I understand it was coppied from a Russian model?
Has anybody got more info on its 'history' and what it was capable of doing???
Malcolm
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"I had expected only ruins", "It's as if I had only left the bunker yesterday!"
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Hello, M19
This stationary weapon was a copy of the russian model FOG-1, who put from 1941 from 1945 around 15.000 pieces. The German military was so impressed by the effects of this weapon that order the production, under the name of Abwehrflammenwerfer 42, of 50.000 pieces.
This apparatus consists of fuel container, flame tube and propelent container. Necessary accessories are slow burning powder propellant, electric squibs, wire, storage battery, and fuel. It has an overall height of 2 feet 6 inches.
The fuel container is a cylindrical tank 21 inches high and 11 inches in diameter. It has iron carrying handles, and a capacity of 8 gallons. The fuel is a black viscid liquid smelling like coal tar. It is a mixture of pitch and light, medium, and heavy oils. It is a little thicker than the usual flame thrower oil. The fuel tank holds 7,7 gallons.
Performance: both electrical squibs fire simultaneously into the pressure chamber. One ignites the propellent powder which generates pressure to force the fuel out through the flame tube; the other ignites the fuel as it passes out of the nozzle. There is an ignition composition of aluminum and barium nitrate at the nozzle. The flame, 5 yards wide and 3 yards high, lasts 1 and a half secons. The range is 30 yards.
Regards,
Jose
This stationary weapon was a copy of the russian model FOG-1, who put from 1941 from 1945 around 15.000 pieces. The German military was so impressed by the effects of this weapon that order the production, under the name of Abwehrflammenwerfer 42, of 50.000 pieces.
This apparatus consists of fuel container, flame tube and propelent container. Necessary accessories are slow burning powder propellant, electric squibs, wire, storage battery, and fuel. It has an overall height of 2 feet 6 inches.
The fuel container is a cylindrical tank 21 inches high and 11 inches in diameter. It has iron carrying handles, and a capacity of 8 gallons. The fuel is a black viscid liquid smelling like coal tar. It is a mixture of pitch and light, medium, and heavy oils. It is a little thicker than the usual flame thrower oil. The fuel tank holds 7,7 gallons.
Performance: both electrical squibs fire simultaneously into the pressure chamber. One ignites the propellent powder which generates pressure to force the fuel out through the flame tube; the other ignites the fuel as it passes out of the nozzle. There is an ignition composition of aluminum and barium nitrate at the nozzle. The flame, 5 yards wide and 3 yards high, lasts 1 and a half secons. The range is 30 yards.
Regards,
Jose
Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Here a drawing of a lay-out of 12 Abwehrflammenwerfer and the
remote control with the switches to fire-up the flametrowers .
Photo - Lone Sentry Com
Regards Jos
remote control with the switches to fire-up the flametrowers .
Photo - Lone Sentry Com
Regards Jos
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Hi, am currently restoring one of these at the moment (but not opperational!!!! ) Any Idea what the writting on the side of the top photo is???
Regards,
Malcolm
Regards,
Malcolm
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Hi,
Done some 'Googleing' and found another example with the same writting on the side but still can't work out what it reads
Regards,
Malcolm
Done some 'Googleing' and found another example with the same writting on the side but still can't work out what it reads
Regards,
Malcolm
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"I had expected only ruins", "It's as if I had only left the bunker yesterday!"
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/StrongpointCorbiereJersey/
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Words of warning from Waffen-Revue Nr. 41.
Markus
Markus
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Thanks Markus
I can't read all of the text as I can't understand German!
Can anybody help if below is right and what letters the '???' should be?
Nicht am Flammrohr
nur an Griffen
tragen
Befuhlen Behalter nur
???krecht nicht liegend
abstellen
Regards,
Malcolm
I can't read all of the text as I can't understand German!
Can anybody help if below is right and what letters the '???' should be?
Nicht am Flammrohr
nur an Griffen
tragen
Befuhlen Behalter nur
???krecht nicht liegend
abstellen
Regards,
Malcolm
"I had expected only ruins", "It's as if I had only left the bunker yesterday!"
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/StrongpointCorbiereJersey/
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Hi Malcolm,
With the shaky background of a few Schuldeutsch classes I'd say the top sentence seems OK and the bottom reads something like:
Befüllten Behälter nur
senkrecht, nicht liegend
abstellen
Regards,
Markus
With the shaky background of a few Schuldeutsch classes I'd say the top sentence seems OK and the bottom reads something like:
Befüllten Behälter nur
senkrecht, nicht liegend
abstellen
Regards,
Markus
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Beautiful & thank you!peeved wrote:Hi Malcolm,
With the shaky background of a few Schuldeutsch classes I'd say the top sentence seems OK and the bottom reads something like:
Befüllten Behälter nur
senkrecht, nicht liegend
abstellen
Regards,
Markus
Translates as,
Regards,Do not carrry on the flametube only the handles.
Fill container only in the vertical,not horizontal.
Malcolm
"I had expected only ruins", "It's as if I had only left the bunker yesterday!"
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/StrongpointCorbiereJersey/
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Though my English and German are both quite a bit less than fluent I surmise the lower text translates more like:M19 MADMAL wrote: Translates as,
Regards,Do not carrry on the flametube only the handles.
Fill container only in the vertical,not horizontal.
Malcolm
Store the filled container vertically only, not horizontally.
Regards,
Markus
Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
The best english translation for this german text is this:
Do not lift by the flametube, only the handles.
Filled container is to be placed only vertical , not horizontal
By the way, what was the original colour of the flammenwerfer? On the pictures it looks black or dark green!?
C. Hoff
Do not lift by the flametube, only the handles.
Filled container is to be placed only vertical , not horizontal
By the way, what was the original colour of the flammenwerfer? On the pictures it looks black or dark green!?
C. Hoff
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
Thanks C. Hoff,c_hoff82 wrote:The best english translation for this german text is this:
Do not lift by the flametube, only the handles.
Filled container is to be placed only vertical , not horizontal
By the way, what was the original colour of the flammenwerfer? On the pictures it looks black or dark green!?
C. Hoff
I think that they were dark green as used on wooden crates and grenades etc although I have never seen one in original condition.
Regards,
Malcolm
"I had expected only ruins", "It's as if I had only left the bunker yesterday!"
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/StrongpointCorbiereJersey/
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Re: Abwehrflammenwerfer 42
It says "gefülten".
Greetings Jack.
Greetings Jack.
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NOoooooooooo!jopaerya wrote:Hi Malcolm
I have some homework for you
Regards Jos
Very nice Jos
The nearest thing found locally, which is thought to be the firing point for an Abwehrflammenwerfer 42, is the small shelf with a double wire coming out of it on the wall to the left of the 150cm searchlight seat in the attached photo.
Regards,
Malcolm
"I had expected only ruins", "It's as if I had only left the bunker yesterday!"
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/StrongpointCorbiereJersey/
Herr Engelbert Hoppe. M19 bunker Commander 1944/45 when he first returned in 2006.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/StrongpointCorbiereJersey/