I need help to Id mortar

Discussions on the fortifications, artillery, & rockets used by the Axis forces.
Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Jan 2011 10:26

Thank you very much for your help, SASH155

Greetings, Sturm78

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 15 Jan 2011 14:42

Hi all,

I need help for Id. this mortar. I suppose a captured Russian mortar: 107mm M1938, maybe ?? :?

Images from Ebay
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

SASH155
Member
Posts: 358
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 00:25
Location: Alexandria, Virginia

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by SASH155 » 15 Jan 2011 16:02

Actually it could be just an 82mm PM-37 (note round non-dished base plate, barrel seems too slender to be either a 107mm or 120mm M-1938). Also, please note the rifles that the Germans are carrying: one has a captured Polish 7.92x57mm Mauser Karabinek 98AZ carbine (standing soldier in top photo) and the others have long barrelled Mauser rifles which are either modified Gew. 98s or perhaps captured Polish Kar. 98s or even captured Czech Brno Vz. 98/22s. This goes to show that many German units, particularly rear echelon troops, which these troops may be, were not equipped with the otherwise ubiquitous Kar. 98K. I have seen photos of front line German infantry taken as late as the start of Operation Barbarossa in the summer of 1941 still equipped with the long barrelled Kar. 98b, complete with turned down bolt handle with cut out in the stock for the knob, grasping grooves in the fore stock, leaf rear sights, and side mounted sling.

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Feb 2011 16:14

Thank you for your answer and sorry for delay, SASH155.

Can somebody identify these mortars?

Image from Ebay
Sturm78
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

SASH155
Member
Posts: 358
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 00:25
Location: Alexandria, Virginia

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by SASH155 » 02 Feb 2011 16:59

82mm PM-37s.

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 03 Feb 2011 10:28

Thank you, SASH155

Regards Sturm78

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Feb 2011 13:21

Hi all,

Not axis mortar but.... :roll: Can somebody identify this swiss mortar?
WW2 or post-WW2 image?

Thnaks in advance. Sturm78
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

SASH155
Member
Posts: 358
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 00:25
Location: Alexandria, Virginia

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by SASH155 » 04 Feb 2011 20:05

I believe the Swiss designated their licensed copy of the Brandt mle. 1927/31 81mm mortar the M-1933.

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Feb 2011 17:20

Thank you, SASH155.

It is the most probably

Greetings Sturm78

nuyt
Member
Posts: 1279
Joined: 29 Dec 2004 13:39
Location: The Netherlands

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by nuyt » 05 Feb 2011 23:31

Are your sure they are Swiss?
Flat country, helmet also used by Argentina...just speculating
and look at the hats the guys in the background are wearing....

nuyt
Member
Posts: 1279
Joined: 29 Dec 2004 13:39
Location: The Netherlands

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by nuyt » 06 Feb 2011 00:04


SASH155
Member
Posts: 358
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 00:25
Location: Alexandria, Virginia

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by SASH155 » 06 Feb 2011 18:30

I think Nuyt just might be correct; then the mortar is probably a French made Brandt mle. 1927/31. The Argentines used the Swiss helmet for many years, and the truck in the background looks like it might be a Ford, which were built locally by HAFDASA.

nuyt
Member
Posts: 1279
Joined: 29 Dec 2004 13:39
Location: The Netherlands

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by nuyt » 06 Feb 2011 22:51


Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Feb 2011 10:47

Thank you very much for your help, SASH155 and nuyt. :D

I guess this mortar was manufactured under license in Argentina by DGFM, no?

Sturm78

Sturm78
Member
Posts: 15553
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 17:18
Location: Spain

Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Apr 2011 12:06

Hi all,

I need help with this mortar: Anybody?? :?

Image from Ebay
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Return to “Fortifications, Artillery, & Rockets”