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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 21 May 2020 16:52

Hi all,

I have some doubts with the mortar of image 3. Is it an 8cm Granatwerfer 34 or an 10cm Nebelwerfer 35 ?
This mortar have characteristics of both models, See the circles


Image 1: 8cm Granatwerfer 34
Image 2: 10cm Nebelwerfer 35
Image 3: ?? :?

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2020 17:27

Noboby for my last question ??

Well, here another image from Ebay. Any idea about this captured mortar ?
82mm BM-37, perhaps ??

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Dec 2020 22:59

Hi all,

Returning to my question raised on May 21, here another image of a mortar similar to the one of the third image posted on 21 May 2020

8cm Gr.Wfr.34 or 10cm Nebelwerfer 35 ?? :?

Image from Ebay
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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Feb 2021 12:54

Nobody ?

Well, I hope to have more lucky with this mine thrower. Can somebody identify it ?

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by v60pih » 21 Feb 2021 14:07

Skoda, Heavy mortar vz. 17 caliber 260 mm was produced from autumn 1917 to 1921. Maximum range 1,850 m

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Feb 2021 16:52

v60pih wrote
Skoda, Heavy mortar vz. 17 caliber 260 mm was produced from autumn 1917 to 1921. Maximum range 1,850 m
Hi v60pih,

According to the book "The Austro-Hungarian artillery from 1867 to 1918" this would be the 26cm Skoda M16...I think it is a very different design.... :?

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 22 Feb 2021 20:58

v60pih wrote
Source: https://translate.google.nl/translate?h ... ch&pto=aue
Well, I think the book mentioned is a fiable source but .....It is clear that one of them is wrong... :roll:


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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by T. A. Gardner » 23 Feb 2021 07:12

Sturm78 wrote:
21 May 2020 16:52
Hi all,

I have some doubts with the mortar of image 3. Is it an 8cm Granatwerfer 34 or an 10cm Nebelwerfer 35 ?
This mortar have characteristics of both models, See the circles


Image 1: 8cm Granatwerfer 34
Image 2: 10cm Nebelwerfer 35
Image 3: ?? :?

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10 cm NW 35. The giveaway is the traversing screw going through the sleeve under the barrel.

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by T. A. Gardner » 23 Feb 2021 07:17

jopaerya wrote:
25 Mar 2020 20:11
Looks there is on the plate of mortar the name Mortier de ?? , could it be French or Belgium mortar ?? Photo = Ebay

Regards Jos
It's a French 150mm M 1917 manufactured by Fabrey.

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by shultz » 27 Feb 2021 14:38

Sturm78 wrote:
22 Feb 2021 20:58
v60pih wrote
Source: https://translate.google.nl/translate?h ... ch&pto=aue
Well, I think the book mentioned is a fiable source but .....It is clear that one of them is wrong... :roll:


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Hi Sturm, there were two models, Mod. 1916 and Mod. 1917 ; both produced by Skoda .
Yours photo is of Mod. 1917 (after WW1 it remained in use in the new Austrian Army).
from a book of F. Cappellano.jpg
from a book of B. Marcuzzo & F. Cappellano.jpg
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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Feb 2021 20:03

Thank you very much for your help, Shultz... :wink:

In the cited book (The Austro-Hungarian artillery from 1867 to 1918) only is mentioned the 26cm Skoda M17..... :?

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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by karlik » 16 Mar 2021 05:07

Hi!
Signed as "Mortaio leggero in prova"
What kind of mortar??
Possible Mortaio Ansaldo da 81 mod. 1931?
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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by shultz » 16 Mar 2021 16:54

karlik wrote:
16 Mar 2021 05:07
Hi!
Signed as "Mortaio leggero in prova"
What kind of mortar??
Possible Mortaio Ansaldo da 81 mod. 1931?
Best regards!
Hi Karlik, your photo shows an Ansaldo prototype of an 81 mm mortar, proposed to the "Royal Italian Army" in the 1930s.
It has not been adopted, so we cannot call it "Mod. 1931", because the denomination with the year was given only to the materials adopted by the Italian army or Italian navy (or by some foreign state). Our producers did not indicate the year if the artillery was not adopted.
For our convenience we can use this year indication, but knowing that it is not official.
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Re: I need help to Id mortar

Post by karlik » 16 Mar 2021 17:45

shultz wrote:
16 Mar 2021 16:54
photo shows an Ansaldo prototype of an 81 mm mortar, proposed to the "Royal Italian Army" in the 1930s.
Thank you!

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