Id. naval guns
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I'd say the photos were definitely of a Deutschland-class Panzerschiff (a.k.a. Pocket Battleship) of the late 1930s and very probably of Graff Spee, given the "Coronel" reference on the superstructure. However, http://www.navweaps.com classifies the guns as 28 cm/52 SK C/28. 28cm SK L/50 guns armed SMS Seydlitz and the Motke-class Battlecruisers of World War 1.
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Thanks your absolutely right!
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Any idea on the gun looks to me a German naval gun turret , the letters look Greek to me ??
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
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Hi Jos,
The life-buoy is from Greek destroyer Vasilissa Olga which suggests a 5" gun.
Regards,
Markus
The life-buoy is from Greek destroyer Vasilissa Olga which suggests a 5" gun.
Regards,
Markus
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Impossible. The D.F. 10x80 (45 schrag) is much too flimsy and poorly insulated both for compression, shock, and vibration to be able to sustain the forces of recoil within that cabin. The lenses and prisms would be shattered very quickly as I'm sure you must be aware if you've owned one of these flakfernrohr. In addition, the flaks are not weather resistant or watertight and moisture would be inside them within a day or two at sea.vladalex wrote:...
Now look at a picture from AHF forum about 10,5 cm S.K.C/32n.S. in 10,5 cm M.P.L.C/32g.E., at the optical system .
Is easy to observe that no common points with with B.Z.C/2 pentaprism system . From the picture we can conclude that optical system of the gun looks like an D.F.10x80 cxn , with additional lenses attached for long distance aiming, worked by Zeiss for Kriegsmarine . It looks like ..., but can anyone to help me on this problem ?
To continue, the optical system for MPLC/30/30D is composed from a single telescope Aldis type on left and right side of the gun, in another words, no B.Z.C/2 reflex system .
I need help to clarify this problem .
Best Regards,
VladAlex.
The Binokulare fernrohr you are asking for is the B.Z. schr. EC/1A L 5x14 and 10x7. I think you've provided a comprehensive glossary on this string already. The EC/1A L is below:
that should help you.
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Thanks Markus
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A photo of the 127 SK C/34 from navweaps.compeeved wrote:Hi Jos,
The life-buoy is from Greek destroyer Vasilissa Olga which suggests a 5" gun.
Regards,
Markus
Wiki, if that can be trusted, says that Vasilissa Olga and her sister-ship had to be fitted with their guns in Greece, as the Germans refused to send the guns to Britain!
Paul
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Hello
Found some more information on these two Greek destroyers Vasilefs Georgios ( reused as Hermes ZG-3 )
and Vasilissa Olga not only the main guns were German 8 x 12.7 cm S.K.C/34 but also the 3.7 cm flak ,
on Ebay we can see a few photo's of a naval 3.7 cm so maybe they are from the Vasilefs Georgios .
http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.nl/ ... rgios.html
http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.nl/ ... -olga.html
Regards Jos
Found some more information on these two Greek destroyers Vasilefs Georgios ( reused as Hermes ZG-3 )
and Vasilissa Olga not only the main guns were German 8 x 12.7 cm S.K.C/34 but also the 3.7 cm flak ,
on Ebay we can see a few photo's of a naval 3.7 cm so maybe they are from the Vasilefs Georgios .
http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.nl/ ... rgios.html
http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.nl/ ... -olga.html
Regards Jos
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... 12,7 cm S.K.C/34 in 12,7 cm M.P.L.C/34. ...jopaerya wrote:Any idea on the gun looks to me a German naval gun turret , the letters look Greek to me ??
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Regards,
VladAlex.
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The Binokulare fernrohr you are asking for is the B.Z. schr. EC/1A L 5x14 and 10x7. I think you've provided a comprehensive glossary on this string already. The EC/1A L is below:
that should help you.[/quote]
Thank you very much, you are right .
From the time I posted this , I "discovered" what you tell me about . Please look at the post from
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by vladalex on 10 Jul 2012, 11:55
Regards,
VladAlex.
The Binokulare fernrohr you are asking for is the B.Z. schr. EC/1A L 5x14 and 10x7. I think you've provided a comprehensive glossary on this string already. The EC/1A L is below:
that should help you.[/quote]
Thank you very much, you are right .
From the time I posted this , I "discovered" what you tell me about . Please look at the post from
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by vladalex on 10 Jul 2012, 11:55
Regards,
VladAlex.
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HI VladAlex
Good research you have made on the Marine flak optic's , here some picture's from E-Bay .
It looks the optic is a very simple and small device with one one single optic on both side's
of the gun .
Regards Jos
Good research you have made on the Marine flak optic's , here some picture's from E-Bay .
It looks the optic is a very simple and small device with one one single optic on both side's
of the gun .
Regards Jos
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Hello Jos,
You are right. For SKC/32L and SKC/32nL in 10,5 cm MPLC/30 or 10,5 cm MPLC/30D, the optics is quite simple but very
"strong"-rugged.
Thank you for posting this very good example of german artillery optics. I attach an "worked" frame from C.Z.A.
Some times early in , Id. naval guns, by jopaerya on 06 Jan 2011, 18:05, you posted an 10,5 cm L/45 Ubts.u.Tbts.Flak Krupp in 10,5 cm Ubts.u.Tbts.L.C/1916 with two " white rectangle" on the midlle . Can you repost it , a little bigger and without rectangle ?
I will prepare a little surprise for you.
Regards,
VladAlex.
You are right. For SKC/32L and SKC/32nL in 10,5 cm MPLC/30 or 10,5 cm MPLC/30D, the optics is quite simple but very
"strong"-rugged.
Thank you for posting this very good example of german artillery optics. I attach an "worked" frame from C.Z.A.
Some times early in , Id. naval guns, by jopaerya on 06 Jan 2011, 18:05, you posted an 10,5 cm L/45 Ubts.u.Tbts.Flak Krupp in 10,5 cm Ubts.u.Tbts.L.C/1916 with two " white rectangle" on the midlle . Can you repost it , a little bigger and without rectangle ?
I will prepare a little surprise for you.
Regards,
VladAlex.
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Hi VladAlex
I have only this blurry Ebay picture with the white boxes .
Regards Jos
I have only this blurry Ebay picture with the white boxes .
Regards Jos
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Hi all,
Could anyone identify the gun in the foreground?
I first thought an 8.8cm SK C35 gun but I am not sure
Image from Ebay
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
Could anyone identify the gun in the foreground?
I first thought an 8.8cm SK C35 gun but I am not sure
Image from Ebay
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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Can anyone identify this gun?
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