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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by stril » 30 Nov 2009 19:48

Hello
10.5 cm SKL/39 nL ? Not sure what it is.
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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by jopaerya » 01 Dec 2009 23:11

Hello Stril

Can you pease gives us some more clue's or hints on the 10.5 cm S.K.L/39 n.L. ??
because I can't find anything on this gun .

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by stril » 02 Dec 2009 07:51

Hello
I too couldnt find anything.
Its a note from Maza Bergen. Two 10.5 cm S.K.L/39 n.L. arrived and is going to be placed at a battery for training flakunits in and around Bergen.
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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Dec 2009 15:09

Hi all,

I found these two interesting images on Ebay:

Image 1 : I think 10.5cm SK C33 AA guns in 8.8cm Dopp.LC31gE mount. Can anyone confirm this? Can anyone identify the warship?
Image 2 : Rheinmetall 3.7cm MK in a naval mount. Source: 50Jahre Rheinmettall Düsseldorf 1889-1939. Have anyone any ideas?

Thanks in advance. Greetings Sturm78
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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by jopaerya » 18 Dec 2009 18:52

Hi Sturm78

I think the first is a 10,5 cm S.K.C/33 in 8,8 cm Dopp.L.C/31 , the second please see page 1
of this topic and http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... itslafette

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by bechelaren » 19 Dec 2009 12:49

Hi Sturm 78,
the 3,7 cm Rheinmetall is most probably a navalised version of Model 39 supplied to Romania. And this, in turn, should be developmemt of 3,7 cm Flak 36.
The gun was carried by Romanian river monitors Basarabia, Bucovina (both ex Austrians) as well as Ion Bratianu, Lascar Catargiu, Alexandru Lahovary, Mihail Cogalniceanu + Ardeal ( also ex Austrians). In my opinion same guns were carried by Romanian destroyers and also famous Admiral Murgescu minelayer.
Maybe somebody can share photos of these guns aboard Romanian warships?

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by jopaerya » 19 Dec 2009 13:12

Hello

Did you see this picture on page 1 from Sturm78 ??

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by bechelaren » 19 Dec 2009 17:32

To jos

Yes I did. It seems to be same gun but with German crew. It is hard to say on which ship the photograph was taken
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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Dec 2009 12:26

Hi all,

I need your help to correctly identify these guns. I think that may be 12.7cm SK C/34 but I am not sure

Images from Ebay
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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by jopaerya » 09 Feb 2010 21:48

Hello

Does somebody know if these naval 4 cm Bofors gun had a special naval mount ?? and know the name ??

Photo's = Ebay.de + Prinz-Eugen.com

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by stril » 10 Feb 2010 10:32

Hello
Does somebody know if these naval 4 cm Bofors gun had a special naval mount ??
Several sites in my hometown was for 4 cm Bofors.
They seems to be made for a special mount.
Added a link with a old photo. Ill try to find better ones.
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http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... rs#p260693

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by jopaerya » 13 Feb 2010 10:31

Hello

I am not sure but the "normal " 4 cm Bofors is a 2 sitter and the naval version looks to be a 3 sitter .

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by bechelaren » 14 Feb 2010 11:55

Bofors constructed special naval mounts prior to WWII. It seems tt small fleets were the first to adopt them. The very first major units to carry them were most probably Polish destroyers Grom and Blyskawica ( launched 1936, commissioned 1937), both carrying two twin mounts of 40 mm/L60 (wz.36) as well as Dutch cruiser De Ruyter (commissioned 1937) which carried 5 twins on Hazemeyer triaxal mountings.Finland and Norway followed. Also Yugoslavs intended to use them on newly-built destroyer Split but did not manage to import them prior to German invasion in 1941. The British adopted Bofors on their ships in 1940-41 ( even when Royal army had them several years earlier) and Mk I up to Mk X mountings were developed during WWII. US Navy used them not earlier than since 1942. More can be found in well-known book of John Campbell . As to German naval mounts, Campbell refers to them as Flak 28 , but Kriegsmarine probably also used guns captured in Poland and France.

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by jopaerya » 14 Feb 2010 14:29

Thanks Bechelaren

Here a photo of the Dutch twin Bofors from a Newspaper .

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Re: Id. naval guns

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Mar 2010 20:03

Hi all,

Can anybody identify this naval gun? I think in a 15cm Tbts KC/36 or in a 12.7cm SK C/34. :? It is difficult for me differentiate between both guns. Are they the same guns that the guns of my images posted here on 23 Dec 2009??


Image from Ebay.
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