Artilleriefährprahm
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Artilleriefährprahm
Hello All
Here some photo's from a Artilleriefährprahm from the 6./Artillerie-Tragerflottille at Port de Bessin ( post-D-Day )
Nice to see the 2 cm Vierlingslafette 38 , the 3.7 cm S.K.C/30U in Ubts.L.C/39 , a 8.8/10.5 cm and even a 8.6 cm RaG .
Photo's = Ebay.usa
Here some photo's from a Artilleriefährprahm from the 6./Artillerie-Tragerflottille at Port de Bessin ( post-D-Day )
Nice to see the 2 cm Vierlingslafette 38 , the 3.7 cm S.K.C/30U in Ubts.L.C/39 , a 8.8/10.5 cm and even a 8.6 cm RaG .
Photo's = Ebay.usa
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Hello Jos
Nice pictures and rare too.
Thanks for posting - now we only need some of Kleinstkampfmittel U-Boote etc. in the same quality.
Regards
Kurt
kstdk
Nice pictures and rare too.

Thanks for posting - now we only need some of Kleinstkampfmittel U-Boote etc. in the same quality.

Regards
Kurt
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I agree, Rare and wonderful pictures
is the auction still active?
I'd love to see more....
Xavier
Der Autodidakt
is the auction still active?
I'd love to see more....
Xavier
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Re: Artilleriefährprahm
Hello Jos ,
* Thank you very much for these good pictures !
* Comments :
- The gun with the shield is a 8,8 cm S.K.C 35 U
- perhaps the breast wall around the 3,7 cm S.K.C 30 U is of concrete ??
- rare to see pictures of RAG , nice catch !
Have you seen the Gerd - Dietrich Schneider : Plattbugkreuzer ???
(Artilleriträger der Marine in einsatz )
regards
ludvig
* Thank you very much for these good pictures !
* Comments :
- The gun with the shield is a 8,8 cm S.K.C 35 U
- perhaps the breast wall around the 3,7 cm S.K.C 30 U is of concrete ??
- rare to see pictures of RAG , nice catch !
Have you seen the Gerd - Dietrich Schneider : Plattbugkreuzer ???
(Artilleriträger der Marine in einsatz )
regards
ludvig
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Hi Ludvig
Thanks for the additional information , I don't have the book , maybe a idea for christmas
Regards Jos
Thanks for the additional information , I don't have the book , maybe a idea for christmas

Regards Jos
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Hello
A nice site here for this topic:
http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/art ... eibung.php
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Kurt
kstdk.
A nice site here for this topic:
http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/art ... eibung.php
Regards
Kurt
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Here is what the Germans reported on D-Day about the AFP at Port-en-Bessin:
[Starting on D-Day] “It was not possible to establish communication with the artillery carrier flotilla (A-Träger-Flotille) lying in the ports of Port-en-Bessin and Grandcamp for some days. The flotilla had departed during the night, except for a few artillery carriers at Port-en-Bessin, which were not maneuverable.”
(Source: Oberstleutnant Fritz Zieglemann – p. 196 “Fighting the Invasion: the German Army at D-Day” par D. Isby)
“10.12 hours[June 6, 1944]: Report from 726th [Grenadier-Regiment]: Three auxiliary craft in the harbor of Port-en-Bessin were sunk by direct hits of bombs.”
(Source: Oberstleutnant Fritz Zieglemann – p. 214 “Fighting the Invasion: the German Army at D-Day” par D. Isby)
Here is another AFP at Port-en-Bessin :
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/reche ... n-t450.htm
Information on the 6. Artillerie-Traeger-Flotille can be found here:
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... rflot6.htm
Emmanuel
[Starting on D-Day] “It was not possible to establish communication with the artillery carrier flotilla (A-Träger-Flotille) lying in the ports of Port-en-Bessin and Grandcamp for some days. The flotilla had departed during the night, except for a few artillery carriers at Port-en-Bessin, which were not maneuverable.”
(Source: Oberstleutnant Fritz Zieglemann – p. 196 “Fighting the Invasion: the German Army at D-Day” par D. Isby)
“10.12 hours[June 6, 1944]: Report from 726th [Grenadier-Regiment]: Three auxiliary craft in the harbor of Port-en-Bessin were sunk by direct hits of bombs.”
(Source: Oberstleutnant Fritz Zieglemann – p. 214 “Fighting the Invasion: the German Army at D-Day” par D. Isby)
Here is another AFP at Port-en-Bessin :
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/reche ... n-t450.htm
Information on the 6. Artillerie-Traeger-Flotille can be found here:
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... rflot6.htm
Emmanuel
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Re: Artilleriefährprahm
Can anyone explain to me the idea behin this boat? Because to me it seems useless to put totally different fixed guns on a boat which is an easy target.
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This pages(KTB Adm.Frankreich) might explain why, as the units they was suppose to protect wasnt living or working in fixed positions, or fortifications. Im interested in KM , but mentioned in another tread, we are way off the topics when discussing weapons at seaCan anyone explain to me the idea behin this boat? Because to me it seems useless to put totally different fixed guns on a boat which is an easy target.

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Re: Artilleriefährprahm
How the RAG works and what was its propose?
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Hello Dili
Here some info on this device http://www.lexpev.nl/downloads/mdv1907a81943.pdf
It could fire rounds with high-exposive and illumination but also used to make a barrage
against low-flying airplanes ( cables were attached to rounds and these rounds had a
parachute so they would stay in the air for a short while )
This device was not always succesfull see the accounts from Erik E http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=39049
Regards Jos
Here some info on this device http://www.lexpev.nl/downloads/mdv1907a81943.pdf
It could fire rounds with high-exposive and illumination but also used to make a barrage
against low-flying airplanes ( cables were attached to rounds and these rounds had a
parachute so they would stay in the air for a short while )
This device was not always succesfull see the accounts from Erik E http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=39049
Regards Jos
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Re: Artilleriefährprahm
WOW - great photos Jos!
Do you know what is the source?!
Any additional info on those AF would be greatly welcomed!!
http://forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index. ... 109.0.html
http://www.47commando.org.uk/1024/Port-en-Bessin.htm
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/reche ... n-t450.htm
Do you know what is the source?!
Any additional info on those AF would be greatly welcomed!!
http://forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index. ... 109.0.html
http://www.47commando.org.uk/1024/Port-en-Bessin.htm
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/reche ... n-t450.htm
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Hello jopaerya and thanks for the links and info.
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Hello
Here a complete photoalbum from a Artilleriträger with 2 cm , 3.7 cm and 10.5 cm guns .
http://cgi.ebay.de/IIWK-FOTOALBUM-FLAKB ... 20b67520fd
Regards Jos
Here a complete photoalbum from a Artilleriträger with 2 cm , 3.7 cm and 10.5 cm guns .
http://cgi.ebay.de/IIWK-FOTOALBUM-FLAKB ... 20b67520fd
Regards Jos