Artilleriefährprahm

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Artilleriefährprahm

Post by jopaerya » 19 Oct 2009 18:00

Hello All

Here some photo's from a Artilleriefährprahm from the 6./Artillerie-Tragerflottille at Port de Bessin ( post-D-Day )
Nice to see the 2 cm Vierlingslafette 38 , the 3.7 cm S.K.C/30U in Ubts.L.C/39 , a 8.8/10.5 cm and even a 8.6 cm RaG .

Photo's = Ebay.usa
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Post by kstdk » 19 Oct 2009 18:16

Hello Jos

Nice pictures and rare too. :D

Thanks for posting - now we only need some of Kleinstkampfmittel U-Boote etc. in the same quality. 8-)

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Post by Xavier » 19 Oct 2009 21:49

I agree, Rare and wonderful pictures
is the auction still active?
I'd love to see more....
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Re: Artilleriefährprahm

Post by ludvig » 20 Oct 2009 08:43

Hello Jos ,
* Thank you very much for these good pictures !
* Comments :
- The gun with the shield is a 8,8 cm S.K.C 35 U
- perhaps the breast wall around the 3,7 cm S.K.C 30 U is of concrete ??
- rare to see pictures of RAG , nice catch !
Have you seen the Gerd - Dietrich Schneider : Plattbugkreuzer ???
(Artilleriträger der Marine in einsatz )
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Post by jopaerya » 20 Oct 2009 17:22

Hi Ludvig

Thanks for the additional information , I don't have the book , maybe a idea for christmas :lol:

Regards Jos

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Post by kstdk » 20 Oct 2009 22:29

Hello

A nice site here for this topic:

http://historisches-marinearchiv.de/art ... eibung.php

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Post by Manuferey » 21 Oct 2009 00:43

Here is what the Germans reported on D-Day about the AFP at Port-en-Bessin:

[Starting on D-Day] “It was not possible to establish communication with the artillery carrier flotilla (A-Träger-Flotille) lying in the ports of Port-en-Bessin and Grandcamp for some days. The flotilla had departed during the night, except for a few artillery carriers at Port-en-Bessin, which were not maneuverable.”
(Source: Oberstleutnant Fritz Zieglemann – p. 196 “Fighting the Invasion: the German Army at D-Day” par D. Isby)

“10.12 hours[June 6, 1944]: Report from 726th [Grenadier-Regiment]: Three auxiliary craft in the harbor of Port-en-Bessin were sunk by direct hits of bombs.”
(Source: Oberstleutnant Fritz Zieglemann – p. 214 “Fighting the Invasion: the German Army at D-Day” par D. Isby)

Here is another AFP at Port-en-Bessin :
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/reche ... n-t450.htm

Information on the 6. Artillerie-Traeger-Flotille can be found here:
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... rflot6.htm

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Post by AvB » 22 Oct 2009 10:18

Can anyone explain to me the idea behin this boat? Because to me it seems useless to put totally different fixed guns on a boat which is an easy target.

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Post by stril » 22 Oct 2009 16:54

Can anyone explain to me the idea behin this boat? Because to me it seems useless to put totally different fixed guns on a boat which is an easy target.
This pages(KTB Adm.Frankreich) might explain why, as the units they was suppose to protect wasnt living or working in fixed positions, or fortifications. Im interested in KM , but mentioned in another tread, we are way off the topics when discussing weapons at sea :-)
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Re: Artilleriefährprahm

Post by Dili » 28 Oct 2009 11:22

How the RAG works and what was its propose?

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Post by jopaerya » 28 Oct 2009 11:59

Hello Dili

Here some info on this device http://www.lexpev.nl/downloads/mdv1907a81943.pdf
It could fire rounds with high-exposive and illumination but also used to make a barrage
against low-flying airplanes ( cables were attached to rounds and these rounds had a
parachute so they would stay in the air for a short while )

This device was not always succesfull see the accounts from Erik E http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=39049

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Re: Artilleriefährprahm

Post by crolick » 28 Oct 2009 13:54

WOW - great photos Jos!
Do you know what is the source?!
Any additional info on those AF would be greatly welcomed!!

http://forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index. ... 109.0.html
http://www.47commando.org.uk/1024/Port-en-Bessin.htm
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/reche ... n-t450.htm

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Re: Artilleriefährprahm

Post by Dili » 29 Oct 2009 04:45

Hello jopaerya and thanks for the links and info.

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Re: Artilleriefährprahm

Post by jopaerya » 14 Jan 2011 17:27

Hello

Here a complete photoalbum from a Artilleriträger with 2 cm , 3.7 cm and 10.5 cm guns .
http://cgi.ebay.de/IIWK-FOTOALBUM-FLAKB ... 20b67520fd

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